TWG 150: Undertale

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

roleblocked or naw

yaw, figured I would be and that top monster would be killed

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

I'm voting between Temmie and Muffet this phase I think. Sans' 'reads' are weirding me out though since he's got napsta, undyne, and tsunderplane I think as scummy and they're part of my town right now. Both Temmie and Muffet he's got listed as monsters

I guess its a bit hard for me to ask this but why would he not be bussing. I feel like he would be in this situation before you claimed.

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I guess its a bit hard for me to ask this but why would he not be bussing. I feel like he would be in this situation before you claimed.

And who do you think he's bussing? Napsta?

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

And who do you think he's bussing? Napsta?

yeah, I still do. I'm doing a reread tomorrow afternoon, but I feel like its what happened, again with how Sans started out the previous day without any reconsideration or anything, he just kept going after them. Idk I've read into this type of thing before and been really wrong before so maybe I ought to be looking in other places but it feels right to me.

I think looking between Temmie and Muffet is not a bad idea, I like Temmie less of the two.

[TWG Papyrus]

though it is tempting, i don't think we can automatically conclude that temmie has to be human here
that notepad "slip" has a decent chance of being one of the best plays in this game although her not really defending it after the mistake was revealed makes it a little unlikely

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I guess its a bit hard for me to ask this but why would he not be bussing. I feel like he would be in this situation before you claimed.

1) Because he knows who you are and that you and me would think he would do this. He was having fun setting up potential mindfucking

2) He knew what I was before I claimed

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

1) Because he knows who you are and that you and me would think he would do this. He was having fun setting up potential mindfucking

2) He knew what I was before I claimed

I can see the first but I can only assume that he suspected, not knew, based on the fact that MK died over you.

If he knew we would think that, perhaps after I made the post about Toriel being a random kill and Sans being the only one that would make a kill like that, then yeah I could see him going into mindfuck mode, that's a really good point actually. I would suppose he's more likely to have done this because of the fact that he posted his reads list in such a way as to make me read him town.

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I think looking between Temmie and Muffet is not a bad idea, I like Temmie less of the two.

I like Muffet less. Really hating her extremely neutral positioning on Sans and her defending of it.

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I can see the first but I can only assume that he suspected, not knew, based on the fact that MK died over you.

I've already explained this several times. What would happen if I died and flipped after being on Sans this entire time?

[TWG Alphys]

He'd be incriminated and would get lynched. His lynch would clear Monster Kid and I was already clearing monster kid based off of my check on sans.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

I've already explained this several times. What would happen if I died and flipped after being on Sans this entire time?

is it better than what happened though? The chances of you dying after claiming with a red on him decrease rather drastically. They have to find the medic that almost certainly is present before they're able to kill you, and if we find the roleblocker first, they just lose the game basically

I mean I can't know what happened but I would assume that MK was just a bigger roleread.

[TWG Alphys]

So rather than killing me and incriminating one of their own, roleblock me so my role is useless and pick off both the town that would've been revealed once Sans eventually would've flipped and continue to pick off top townies hoping their not the Bomb or Oracle (this is certainly risky though).

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

So rather than killing me and incriminating one of their own, roleblock me so my role is useless and pick off both the town that would've been revealed once Sans eventually would've flipped and continue to pick off top townies hoping their not the Bomb or Oracle (this is certainly risky though).

You really can't do much about the oracle or the bomb so long as the cop is alive, because you have to roleblock the cop and not the nightkill, but I think its for the best, yeah. Send in the wolf that isn't the roleblocker and hope not to hit either, its not likely that they hit one of those anyways.

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

is it better than what happened though? The chances of you dying after claiming with a red on him decrease rather drastically. They have to find the medic that almost certainly is present before they're able to kill you, and if we find the roleblocker first, they just lose the game basically

I mean I can't know what happened but I would assume that MK was just a bigger roleread.

Sans certainly had a chance being left alive, one list of reads after an entirety of doing nothing and everybody jumped off of him. People only started jumping back once I said I had a check on him. He was in no danger until I either died and flipped or came out, and now that i came out, they don't need to get rid of me just yet.

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

They have to find the medic that almost certainly is present

is it though? Not sure at all if roles are random or if xiz cares about balancing the two teams. Since I know humans have both a godfather and a roleblocker, I'd like to think we've got one other thing, but we can't be certain.

[TWG Tsunderplane]

now that we know doggo wasn't the cop or the mouse, are operating under the assumption that the mouse isn't actually in this game? i feel like if anyone has gotten spaghetti by now (and isn't dead yet) they would've used it or at least come forward with it

not knowing if we have vigi kills available is driving me crazy right now

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

is it though? Not sure at all if roles are random or if xiz cares about balancing the two teams. Since I know humans have both a godfather and a roleblocker, I'd like to think we've got one other thing, but we can't be certain.

do you think both teams just have two power roles (godfather/roleblock and cop/???) to balance it out or something else

[TWG Tsunderplane]

i'm fairly certain monster team has at least two, as it would put us at a rather steep disadvantage otherwise

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

not knowing if we have vigi kills available is driving me crazy right now

unless someone claims that they have a gun I think its best for your sanity to assume that there isn't a mouse

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

do you think both teams just have two power roles (godfather/roleblock and cop/???) to balance it out or something else

I have no idea