TWG 150: Undertale

[TWG Tsunderplane]

your toriel = random kill makes sense and i can totally get behind that but how do you jump from that to flowey

i'm not following your thought process here

[TWG Mettaton]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

The only reason that Toriel ever dies last night is because it was a random kill, not because of a role read, no one can role read someone based off of posts like those.

This means that Flowey is a wolf because I believe that they are the only person to make a random kill as such.

This just occurred to me.

I read all of toriel's posts and had no idea how any human being could read any of those as blue tells so while I hate the idea of random kills, it's a real possibility

however remember that the wolves are a team, so even if someone like Flowey would make a random kill, do you think the entire team would agree with that idea?

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

your toriel = random kill makes sense and i can totally get behind that but how do you jump from that to flowey

i'm not following your thought process here

Tsunderplane SCRUBLORD--> NOOBLORD

I think that the person who is most likely to make a random kill for the sake of making a random kill is either Flowey or Sans, I'm not sure which one though. I'm not a big fan of either of their posting thus far, so I'm fine with shining a light on EITHER OF THESE HUMANS

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Mettaton

I read all of toriel's posts and had no idea how any human being could read any of those as blue tells so while I hate the idea of random kills, it's a real possibility

however remember that the wolves are a team, so even if someone like Flowey would make a random kill, do you think the entire team would agree with that idea?

my premise includes the latter in the premise itself, though I suppose it is only IMPLIED.

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Yes, I think so. Its happened many times before.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

I'll be back later, FAILURES

[TWG Mettaton]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

my premise includes the latter in the premise itself, though I suppose it is only IMPLIED.

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Yes, I think so. Its happened many times before.

I guess but the conversation would be like

flowey: "hey guys let's randomly kill someone to fuck with town"
???: "what about blues though"
flowey: "nah"
???: "ok"

[TWG Flowey]

Originally Posted by TWG Mettaton

I read all of toriel's posts and had no idea how any human being could read any of those as blue tells so while I hate the idea of random kills, it's a real possibility

however remember that the wolves are a team, so even if someone like Flowey would make a random kill, do you think the entire team would agree with that idea?

Pretty sure I've reset enough times to know that wouldn't work. Also Toriel could have died because someone saw her as a town player based on this:

Originally Posted by TWG Toriel

I do think it is nice to have thoughts on who is who. Though, could someone kindly explain what the purpose of saying that you think you know who someone is? I do not believe any useful conversation is generated by exclaiming that you hold a hypothesis, without showing the reasoning behind it, or the acknowledgement of said hypothesis. Are we not pondering who the murderous humans doppelgangers might be, instead of such empty minded posting?

It's not a hard lean but there's a lot of more town oriented thought flow here. I could just as easily be wrong though.

Originally Posted by TWG Mettaton

I guess but the conversation would be like

flowey: "hey guys let's randomly kill someone to fuck with town"
???: "what about blues though"
flowey: "nah"
???: "ok"

"Hey guys, we uh, totally just bussed dbp on day 0."
"Yeah, that was great, they probably won't look for both of us on that wagon"
"Yeah prob not"

[TWG Flowey]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I'm not a big fan of either of their posting thus far

Originally Posted by TWG Flowey

Alright fuck the image shtick. It'd make the rest of the game more difficult than it ought to be.

I need to go reread on this but I wanna reference two posts:

A little random I'm sure, but I am curious if this strikes you with anything. Like does it feel somewhat ungenuine at all? Also I want to say that: I don't think their vote was just for reactions.

I just can't imagine why that'd be the case.

[TWG Flowey]

Or at least, it feels a bit convenient.

[TWG Sans]

hey

[TWG Sans]

Originally Posted by TWG Mettaton

1) monster kid said he would give his reads if he came close to dying
2) monster kid wasn't close to dying
3) sans voted him for "not giving his reads"

I'm not sure this was a silencing attempt per se, but his logic for voting Monster Kid doesn't make sense internally

coming from someone that has stated they don't like how the kid's been going, i'm hurt you feel you have a problem

[TWG Mettaton]

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

coming from someone that has stated they don't like how the kid's been going, i'm hurt you feel you have a problem

I'm keeping an open mind

[TWG Sans]

i'm still waiting though, if the kid doesn't come straight with his info, i might consider voting again

and hey...

Originally Posted by TWG Monster Kid

For the dense: there is a very good chance the mafia team is four members large

And can we not have a discussion about me deliberately trying to earn town points for being the first person to point out this obvious fact?

call it a hunch but the kids bonebreaker comes off as not natural.

so y'know

I haven't liked the kid in a long while

[TWG Sans]

and now... for something light hearded

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

either flowey or sans, I'm not sure yet. Its one or the other, though the other could still be a wolf I have nothing to connect them BUT THEY SHOULD BE AFRAID IF THEY ARE CONNECTED

don't you mean "rooted"?

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

The only reason that Toriel ever dies last night is because it was a random kill, not because of a role read, no one can role read someone based off of posts like those.

This means that Flowey is a wolf because I believe that they are the only person to make a random kill as such.

This just occurred to me.

wow, you're just kinda all over the place

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Muffet

So my read on undyne is still the same except he's playing apparent monster instead of wolf. I didn't like their vote, I knew they'd pull something like that. Their defensive on why they voted at the literal end of eod is abysmal.

Not really. If I was in their position and two people i don't know what their roles were switched onto my vote super quick before the phase ended i'd be weirded out too and would probably switch my vote.

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

Tsunderplane SCRUBLORD--> NOOBLORD

I think that the person who is most likely to make a random kill for the sake of making a random kill is either Flowey or Sans, I'm not sure which one though. I'm not a big fan of either of their posting thus far, so I'm fine with shining a light on EITHER OF THESE HUMANS

i like how i'm a nooblord for asking for more insight on your thoughts

so far all you've given us is "i don't really like their posts" and have not actually explained why this is

[TWG Tsunderplane]

you're starting to feel to me like either a town who has no idea what's happening or a wolf desperately grasping at straws for reasons to start a wagon on someone and right now i'm leaning toward the latter

[TWG Alphys]

Or maybe the random kill came from any of the other people that haven't posted a lot

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I think that the person who is most likely to make a random kill for the sake of making a random kill is either Flowey or Sans, I'm not sure which one though. I'm not a big fan of either of their posting thus far, so I'm fine with shining a light on EITHER OF THESE HUMANS

While I don't like Sans, I have no reason right now to dislike flowey