jTWG LXXX - Simplicity 2.0

[choof]

like
I'm trying to go over any and all scenarios where we would have two townies claiming to be seer and given that we have charu and sunfan claiming, that's not fuckin possible

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by choof

it doesn't matter
we have two claims
the only thing we can do as town to have any chance at winning is to lynch one then the other

if we mislynch today that leaves us with 3 towns and 1 wolf tomorrow, 3:1
we lynch the other claim and we win the game

sorry sunfan, I don't really see any other way to end this game

and my paranoia would rather see you die first

I unclaimed as soon as charu claimed

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

I would think you would then try to pin me as MW, so I probably still would've, bucko.

I wouldn't have pushed on any of my greens, I would've argued for the (correct) play of lynching outside of the checks, which unfortunately probably would've pushed on you yeah

but if I green'd you, I wouldn't have

[Charu]

I don't know what kind of ballsy ass play you're trying to pull sunfan, but if you're the last wolf, you should give up.

It's impossible to win.

If you die and the game keeps going, then I'll die in the night and F3 will have someone with a green check.

And choof is town, like I'm reading him so hard town.

It's over, concede last wolf.

It's over

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

I don't know what kind of ballsy ass play you're trying to pull sunfan, but if you're the last wolf, you should give up.

It's impossible to win.

If you die and the game keeps going, then I'll die in the night and F3 will have someone with a green check.

And choof is town, like I'm reading him so hard town.

It's over, concede last wolf.

It's over

asking the last wolf to concede is a bad idea

literally you know

you know

I would never do this play as a wolf

[Charu]

Oh wait, there's an extra person, never mind.

[choof]

with 6 people in the game, should we... nolynch?

[thesunfan]

I literally NEVER get lynched today if I just stay quiet (because in the world you're pushing I am the master wolf and am not worried about the seer since you have a green on me)

so I have no reason to draw attention to myself

[thesunfan]

I literally NEVER get lynched today if I just stay quiet (because in the world you're pushing I am the master wolf and am not worried about the seer since you have a green on me)

so I have no reason to draw attention to myself

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by choof

with 6 people in the game, should we... nolynch?

we should do that either today the day after if today's lynch doesn't end the game.

I would prefer to do it if today's lynch doesn't end the game, its slightly better to do it in that order.

I should mention that if this happens, that there should be NO discussion in final 4 because it will give the wolf the best idea of who they should kill in order to manipulate information in order to win the game

[thesunfan]

like, I get that it looks bad simply because the worst case scenario happened, but I can talk about why I would never kill w&b last night among other things that I think are pretty clearing for me.

@charu&choof, will you at least grant me that doing this play \probably\ makes me town?

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

@charu would you have cc'd me if I claimed a green on you last night instead of wabby?

can you answer this charu my curiosity is BURNING

[Charu]

...

Then we kill... soundwave then.

You're right, I really don't see you doing this as a wolf. Like, literally ever, and I appreciate what you did.

[choof]

maaaan, doing this roleswap thing was such an awful idea dude.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

...

Then we kill... soundwave then.

You're right, I really don't see you doing this as a wolf. Like, literally ever, and I appreciate what you did.

I could hug you rn

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by choof

maaaan, doing this roleswap thing was such an awful idea dude.

pays off immensely if dfr fg or you is the seer because they don't claim

soundwave is kinda doesn't matter

literally the worst case scenario is if charu is the seer, which I guess is more likely than dfr fg or you, but it was worth a shot

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

...

Then we kill... soundwave then.

You're right, I really don't see you doing this as a wolf. Like, literally ever, and I appreciate what you did.

I think I need to reread FR but yeah killing soundwave is probably for the best

now that I think about it, it probably explains lurker's death better than anything else does

[Charu]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

can you answer this charu my curiosity is BURNING

Like I said, nope. In the event you are the MW, I have to put my foot down regardless of what fake seer you had.

Because I know you're smart enough to know that a wolf is in really deep shit when they still haven't gotten the seer in this stage of the game.

[thesunfan]

soundwave being the seer or not doesn't really matter because if I don't claim he gets pressured enough today to where he has to claim (or claims outright), whereas if I claim then he claims anyways, or he should I guess I don't know how much experience he has with this situation

[choof]

if we mislynch today, that puts us into the next day with 4 townies vs 1 wolf
sleeping doesn't matter numbers wise, we're still afforded the same amount of mislynches
but sleeping tomorrow is better than sleeping today