Accountability in Mental Illness

[Luvox]

I'm not touching that coma comparison

Originally Posted by lurker

i feel like luvox's post doesn't distinguish clearly enough between those who have their mental faculties unimpeded by their illness and those who are too lost in their mental illness to distinguish their delusions from reality
you're not going to give a fuck about common sense if you think everyone is an agent acting against you (talking mainly about schizophrenia here) and while more intelligent people tend to be more able to cope with delusions of that magnitude it doesn't take any particular level of "intellectual disability" to convince oneself of that sort of situation

You're too right, my opinions were biased towards my specific illnesses (or maybe just myself in general). I do feel where you're coming from though, my meds just restricted my ability to think about the situations when I actually need them.

I can't count the times I've been committed or arrested because I was getting delusions of reference from external stimuli (that's a lie, the answer's 8). I don't blame the illness though, I blame myself for the way I handled the situations. In the end it's my actions and my own inability to discern whether or not what I hear and see is actually real.

illness is a hurdle, not a barrier. Unless they've got a neurodegenerative disease, people are capable of identifying their triggers and placing failsafes to ensure their safety and the safety of others. For example, I go to sleep every most nights expecting any number of neighbours to storm my house and kill me in my sleep, the news tells me there's public outrage and people are pissed with me, I expect a shitstorm everytime I close my eyes.
You know what I do? Every sensible step to ensure the sounds I'm hearing are absolute. I don't watch TV, I keep my windows closed, and I take every step to ensure I'm not disrupting those around me, does it help me sleep? no. but at least it gives me confidence that my delusions are my own. I'm able to make these decisions to help myself distinguish from what's real and what's not; and in turn make the most sensible decision based on what's left

I don't know where I'm going with this but just some insight on someone who literally isn't sure he's in the same reality as everyone else most of the time.
I feel like if I can overcome my problems, she can overcome hers. Or at least learn to control them

Edit: If you're wondering it's a mix of psychosis and anxiety. changes my feelings, behaviour and tricks me into thinking everyone is talking about me behind my back. If you've got a paranoia deficiency I'd definitely recommend 5 stars

double edit: this is probably more of a chit-chat post then a critical thinking post, I don't really know if divulging my weaknesses contributes in any way. But the point is: you don't have to let it control you.

if it can be controlled, you're accountable. Even when it's not controllable, you're still accountable. Someone needs to take responsibility for things, and if you're the reason for those thing then accountability falls on you. I'd say the same to anyone. mentally disabled dude shits his pants? their fault. rapist can't stop raping? his fault. everything we do or have done is a product of who we are, our actions are ours and ours alone.
If we wanna use cavernio logic; it's not the rapists fault blame his hormones. it's not the retards fault blame his parents.

It all comes down to control (which most people are capable of to some degree), regardless of your illness.

This thread should probably be titled "I can't control myself, validate my decision to let the sickness win"

Originally Posted by Cavernio

I am not actually accountable for the worst of my behaviors when I have them because I am not actually in control. It's like I'm on auto-pilot.

this mentality is toxic. Learn to control yourself.

Sorry if I'm being blunt, but I've seen countless people more fucked than you and even they were able to learn some self-restraint.