TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) - Page 86

**roundbox** · 12-11-2015, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dLGN

you put too much effort into that, lmao. at this point I don't think it took that much to pocket me, but you have been defending me from the start for some reason and I was probably already pocketed.

i'm going to take a little time to think about it and respond because you deserve that.

really dude? you seriously think this is an elaborate pocket because it ends up townreading you?

**roundbox** · 12-11-2015, 12:54 AM

I make towerposts like this every game when I'm actually trying
as you could tell my start of this game was garbage

DaBackpack · 12-11-2015, 01:00 AM

Xel, when you get back, can you post all of your logs with everybody you've talked to?

**AragakiAyase** · 12-11-2015, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dLGN

you put too much effort into that, lmao. at this point I don't think it took that much to pocket me, but you have been defending me from the start for some reason and I was probably already pocketed.

i'm going to take a little time to think about it and respond because you deserve that.

this is either utter paranoia from a town or potential distancing

dLGN · 12-11-2015, 01:18 AM

jfc i'm town, you're right, i've had you as town for a while and yeah, it's probably not a pocket because like I said, you didn't have to try that hard to stay as town for me, and I don't think you're just trying to look good for my flip.

i've been thrown for a bit of a loop by the tokzic suicide and the timing of some of your more substantial posts but you're probably just town and it's a breath of fresh air.

still need to take my time to evaluate who truly thinks I am a wolf and who is doing this out of convenience. things like rzr talking earlier about not being one to get on wagons but getting on this, while simultaneously bringing that fact up again is interesting. i was 2 votes away from insta lynch. ugh.

**storn42** · 12-11-2015, 01:42 AM

**AragakiAyase** · 12-11-2015, 01:56 AM

reposting log with xel, nothing has changed though

Code:

aragakiayase [7:19 PM] 
Hi


----- December 7th -----
xelnya [2:52 AM] 
you suck

[2:52] 
hai

aragakiayase [11:25 AM] 
so why have you been playing the way you have this game

[11:26] 
you seemed interested at first but you've completely dropped off

[11:26] 
and you backpacked onto the gradiant wagon???

xelnya [3:21 PM] 
It seems like I dropped off because 1 it's OOT and you probably don't know if I've been talking to more people yet because I haven't told you and then you have to account that at the beginning of the game I was on some days off. I'm now working.

[3:23] 
If you think I'm a literal hindrance 100% I appreciate the honesty, let me know and I'll see if yoshl can get me replaced

[3:28] 
And before you like think I'm taking it personally, I'm not. Don't worry about that.

aragakiayase [3:56 PM] 
I don't think you're a hindrance

[3:56] 
and work is fair and so is OOT

[3:56] 
so have you been PMing other people

xelnya [3:56 PM] 
I've been sparing about it because that's usually my gameplay style anyways. I don't really interact much so I've kept it about where I think it should be.

aragakiayase [3:57 PM] 
why are you trying to maintain a certain amount of interaction???

xelnya [3:57 PM] 
Because a lot of it feels out of place to me

[3:57] 
Like AA, how often do I directly interact with a lot of people other than in game questions and stuff

[3:58] 
usually it's a bunch of gifs

aragakiayase [3:58 PM] 
you don't

xelnya [3:58 PM] 
more than straight talking

aragakiayase [3:58 PM] 
but I haven't really seen you ask questions either

[3:58] 
you've posted a lot

[3:58] 
but when I look most of it is short and filler

xelnya [3:59 PM] 
the thing with this game is

[3:59] 
you can't say that as anyone else

[3:59] 
with solid fact behind it

[3:59] 
like rzr couldn't say that

[3:59] 
they have no idea how I am being in pms and stuff

[4:01] 
It would take a town discussion full throttle to get that cleared and we'd see that coming I think

[4:02] 
At least, that's how it comes off to me.

aragakiayase [5:24 PM] 
I don't understand

[5:25] 
basically you're saying there's no way for anyone to know how much work you're putting in unless everyone talks about it?


----- December 8th -----
xelnya [2:47 AM] 
The tldr is this

[2:47] 
if someone in game said

[2:47] 
"oi xel is playing his wolf meta"

[2:47] 
They couldn't fucking back it up

[2:47] 
Not with any degree promise anyways

[2:48] 
It would literally take the whole goddamned town

[2:48] 
saying hey who talked to xel

[2:48] 
which atm would only happen

[2:48] 
at one of you fucking promting it

aragakiayase [11:44 AM] 
Convince me you're town because right now I think you're a wolf

aragakiayase [12:02 PM] 
Any reads? Any thoughts?

[12:02] 
Which of the PR claims do you buy and why

xelnya [3:21 PM] 
Best town is V hands down picking up where he did to say we shouldn't lynch the hobo claims

[3:21] 
Starting to kinda doubt tokzic because

[3:22] 
of what V and DBP posted last night

[3:23] 
I wanna see xiz go because he's playing sloppy and I wanna see him punished for it

[3:24] 
Like who the fuck clears someone because they're new, that's just horrible reasoning and is full of assumptions xiz as a plyer should be smart enough to not be making'

[3:26] 
Scummiest people in a row are probably xizu and storn third one I'm not sure of yet

[3:26] 
dbp is prob town due to the convo with v last night

aragakiayase [3:27 PM] 
So you doubt toxzic but want xiz to die more because of his scummy play?

[3:27] 
Or sloppy play?

xelnya [3:27 PM] 
Sloppy play because it's not characteristic of him

[3:27] 
xizu is a gimmicky player not a sloppy one

[3:28] 
But thing with doubting tokzic is

[3:28] 
we can make a move on him should be wrong about xiz, or we COULD do Botchi but no one would ever think that was a good idea so might as well go between those two because that'd get more down I think

[3:30] 
Also realizing how much I meld with v and that's not good now that I actually type my thoughts out

aragakiayase [3:32 PM] 
why is melding with V not good if you townread him?

xelnya [3:34 PM] 
Because mindmelding in general is fine if it's on some things but when it's a lot of them... It just feels bad

aragakiayase [3:34 PM] 
does it? if I mindmeld with someone a lot that makes me feel better about them

xelnya [3:35 PM] 
Sure I can see that, but it feels less like thinking for myself and more like just sitting back, agreeing, and doing nothing

[3:35] 
That is

aragakiayase [3:35 PM] 
ok I can see that

xelnya [3:35 PM] 
if you're like super doing it

aragakiayase [3:35 PM] 
that was what I was going to ask, is it because it feels like you're just backpacking

[3:35] 
so why do you think storn is scum now

[3:35] 
because some things he did struck me as very town

xelnya [3:38 PM] 
Sotrn's been utr whole game to me

[3:38] 
is that read super adjustable yes

[3:39] 
but is there someone better suited to fill that spot atm, to me no.

[3:39] 
But I can concede that one COULD be wrong.

aragakiayase [3:39 PM] 
so you think xiz play is sloppy

[3:39] 
do you think he's scum because of that or that he's just sloppy?

xelnya [3:40 PM] 
Inching it towards because he's being sloppy which isn't characteristic of xiz

aragakiayase [3:40 PM] 
ok but lynching someone because of sloppy play doesn't seem right

xelnya [3:41 PM] 
We do it with RB and Zenith all the time

aragakiayase [3:41 PM] 
unless you think that sloppy play is indicative of them being scum and uncomfortable

xelnya [3:41 PM] 
"which isn't characteristic of xiz"

[3:41] 
That's kinda why I added that

aragakiayase [3:41 PM] 
ok I didn't interpret exactly that way but fine

[3:41] 
if xiz flips town then you think it's tokzic?

[3:42] 
with maybe botchi?

xelnya [3:43 PM] 
I think if Xiz flips town we don't have a choice but to figure out between the two is full of it

[3:43] 
Would start with Tokzic tho because there's already some doubt

[3:43] 
And like I said earlier I think even messing with Botchi is a waste of time

[3:45] 
So in terms of lynch order I think it'll probably be

Xizu, Tokzic / Botchi / Maybe storn? something in that ballpark

[3:46] 
Based on the progression of things and what I think I'd do

[3:46] 
But I has a question for you tho

[3:46] 
What are your thoughts exactly on the convo dbp posted

aragakiayase [3:46 PM] 
with tokzic or v

xelnya [3:46 PM] 
Tokzic

[3:46] 
V is pretty much sold town

[3:46] 
he could tell me to jump, I'd probably ask how high

aragakiayase [3:46 PM] 
it strikes me as weird

[3:47] 
let me look at it again

xelnya [3:47 PM] 
I mean when you say it's weird like out of place, or just " a little conveniant?"

aragakiayase [3:47 PM] 
I mean tokzic has said his motive was to test dbp

[3:47] 
and that he didn't think about whether or not that would actually produce results

[3:47] 
given the timing of when tokzic actually knew he'd be going into the booth

[3:48] 
he may not have had time to think it over carefully

[3:48] 
but it smells

[3:48] 
bad

[3:48] 
tokzic [10:07 PM] 
alright i have a really hard time imagining red just chilling in an exhibit

[10:08] 
so i'm going to go ahead and say you're 90% town

[3:48] 
like those lines don't sound natural

xelnya [3:49 PM] 
Is that directed at you, or a convo with another person

[3:49] 
by tokzic

aragakiayase [3:49 PM] 
that was directed at dbp

[3:49] 
taken from convo withh tokzic

[3:52] 
so when did you come up with these reads

[3:52] 
like V town, xiz scum tokzic fishy storn scummy

xelnya [3:52 PM] 
Come up with them? One does not just come up with reads. One obtains them over time :smile:

aragakiayase [3:52 PM] 
yes

xelnya [3:52 PM] 
lulz

aragakiayase [3:52 PM] 
so at what point in the game did you have these reads

xelnya [3:53 PM] 
The V one has been since he said the thing day 0 about not going through the hobos

[3:53] 
WHICH everyone is kind of ignoring

[3:54] 
But that was literally a "guys let's not sink time into this yetbecause more data later would be better for this so we're not mislynching"

[3:54] 
is sorta the approach he has

[3:54] 
I think

[3:54] 
Storn I haven't really liked all game

[3:55] 
Xiz I started to really dislike where noted in the thread with the head slap gif

[3:55] 
Because that line of thought

[3:55] 
is just awful

[3:55] 
clearing people because they're new

[3:55] 
It's like

[3:56] 
would you clear me in a game for busing a partner to death because it's the first time I'd done it

[3:56] 
No you wouldn't

[3:56] 
you'd be suspect as hell about that yes?

aragakiayase [3:56 PM] 
yeah

xelnya [3:57 PM] 
kay so I have to get ready for work now but yeh leave some stuff if you want and I'll get back to you when I get home

[3:57] 
I will HOPEFULLY be there for EoD

[3:57] 
Because phones but I won't be in slack

aragakiayase [3:58 PM] 
ok

xelnya [3:58 PM] 
So if you see anything super important paste it to me on skype plz

aragakiayase [3:58 PM] 
one more question to leave you with

[3:58] 
if you've had these reads building why don't you say anything

xelnya [3:58 PM] 
Canada is the answer

[3:59] 
Because saying something is not important unless I immensely disagree at this point in time. If I feel a need to stop us from going the wrong way then I'll say something

[4:00] 
Plus it's not like I can hard back these up without some of the peoples from OOT talking to me a little. Which I should start bugging them since they won't come to me

[4:00] 
I must be scary or something

aragakiayase [4:00 PM] 
ok well it has the side effect of making you seem like you're trying to stay UTR

xelnya [4:00 PM] 
Can't say that's wrong

[4:01] 
Off to get ready now tho

aragakiayase [4:01 PM] 
ok


----- December 9th -----
aragakiayase [4:42 PM] 
tokzic or botchi

DaBackpack · 12-11-2015, 02:39 AM

----- December 8th -----
xelnya [2:47 AM]
The tldr is this

[2:47]
if someone in game said

[2:47]
"oi xel is playing his wolf meta"

[2:47]
They couldn't fucking back it up

[2:47]
Not with any degree promise anyways

[2:48]
It would literally take the whole goddamned town

[2:48]
saying hey who talked to xel

[2:48]
which atm would only happen

[2:48]
at one of you fucking promting it

I'm not sure why but I like this response for some reason

**XelNya** · 12-11-2015, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Xel, when you get back, can you post all of your logs with everybody you've talked to?

I'm not familiar with how code tags work, so I won't be using them for simplicity's sake on my end

One of these got cut off to, and I don't know how to go around it. Denoted which ones are cut.

"Your team has more than 10,000 messages in it's archive, so although there are older messages than are shown below, you can't see them." is the message I see.

AA

Botchi
Note: Cut off, but I think Botchi posted this earlier, which was about directly after we chatted.

DBP

dlgn

Roundbox

Rzr

Tokzic

dLGN · 12-11-2015, 03:52 AM

oh yeah I liked that convo with xel, seemed super relaxed and like they were reading my posts trying to learn about me and who I am / how I play / my experience

didn't really get that from anything in the thread, but yeah, i like xel as town.

vote on storn looking better rn.

dLGN · 12-11-2015, 03:53 AM

i say "they" to be safe, sorry for being impersonal/rude. if any of you are female or want to be referred to as such lmk, otherwise I'll just go with he from now on.

**XelNya** · 12-11-2015, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dLGN

i say "they" to be safe, sorry for being impersonal/rude. if any of you are female or want to be referred to as such lmk, otherwise I'll just go with he from now on.

How dare you

I am the prettiest fucking princess

**roundbox** · 12-11-2015, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

----- December 8th -----
xelnya [2:47 AM]
The tldr is this

[2:47]
if someone in game said

[2:47]
"oi xel is playing his wolf meta"

[2:47]
They couldn't fucking back it up

[2:47]
Not with any degree promise anyways

[2:48]
It would literally take the whole goddamned town

[2:48]
saying hey who talked to xel

[2:48]
which atm would only happen

[2:48]
at one of you fucking promting it

I'm not sure why but I like this response for some reason

I am going to blow this out of the water when I get home DaBackpack

**AragakiAyase** · 12-11-2015, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox

I am going to blow this out of the water when I get home DaBackpack

ok because right now I'm extremely skeptical

also what's the difference between xel wolf/town meta?

rzr · 12-11-2015, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

also what's the difference between xel wolf/town meta?

Lolol this.

Just got to work, gonna try to catch up stuff before getting swapmed and pissy again like yesterday -- so I'm here, but you'll know when my attentin is fully on the game again

rzr · 12-11-2015, 09:28 AM

Here's that Gradiant log I promised I'd have when I got back onto a decent PC. I dunno why I can't find the PM new people on my wife's laptop, but here:

Code:

gradiant [12:33 AM] 
I'm down with that team suggestion

rzr [12:34 AM] 
the masoning :stuck_out_tongue: decent soft, right?

gradiant [12:36 AM] 
more like I don't really trust dlglgalkn and im definitely not liking xiz right now

rzr [12:38 AM] 
Xiz worries me for he wagon approach - buut I don't know his play style at all
dlgn I'm scared of mislynching. I think he's being silly and doesn't understand where the FFR community comes from a bit. As a TWG player I think he might be just a lot to handle, as an FFR TWG player I think his posts look scummy as moldy bubble gum

gradiant [12:40 AM] 
I've played a game where me and xiz were in a wolf team and he's acting the same way

[12:40] 
hard to tell right now since D1, but im not trusting him at all

rzr [12:40 AM] 
That's funny, my first questions to everyone were "hey how do gradiant and xiz play" lol since I never played with you guys

[12:41] 
In contrast, I played a wolf game with Charu 2 games back and he is so far acting like his town/pr self

gradiant [12:41 AM] 
id link game but im seriously still trying to go through the game history to find the title

[12:42] 
might have the wolfchat in my ffr pms still

rzr [12:43 AM] 
haha has it been that long? I saw you ITT last game a lot and I was gonna pm you and say hey come join, now I'm glad I waited I woulda sounded dumb :stuck_out_tongue:

gradiant [12:43 AM] 
last game wasn't that long ago

[12:43] 
me and charu had got banned because we were using Skype during night phase instead of quicktopic wolf chat lmfao

rzr [12:44 AM] 
are you serious?

[12:44] 
god that is retarded

[12:45] 
I hate these new rules it's stupid

gradiant [12:45 AM] 
I've played maybe 20  games? just took a little break

[12:45] 
still something I have to get back into though

rzr [12:45 AM] 
:simple_smile: hell yeah

[12:46] 
I started back in the pntballa travman days lol, and we HAD to use AIM or at least have one, so not being able to talk is so weird to me

[12:46] 
When I first came back I said something in a game like "hey if i'm mia just send me a blank pm to notify my phone" and everyone flipped out lol

gradiant [12:50 AM] 
was also the fact that quicktopic sucks and Skype is super convenient

rzr [12:51 AM] 
But still, your partners. They get really picky about things these days. Last game when James May never ever posted I said someh

[12:52] 
thing ITT like "So when can charu sub in for him"

[12:52] 
And I get a PM from sunfan going hey this is your warning don't talk about that stuff. like whaa? chill dude I get where it comes from bu why so serious man

gradiant [12:52 AM] 
sunfan was a shitty host that game, just sayin

rzr [12:52 AM] 
skype chat with your wolf bud is like a given - why waste time that's what screwed me and charu

[12:52] 
he was mean ><

[12:53] 
lol

gradiant [8:43 PM] 
saw your chat log post

[8:43] 
in this game I wouldn't worry about whether or not it's okay to post logs

[8:43] 
if a log is made it's postable in the thread.

rzr [8:47 PM] 
yeah they said that but I don't get why I can SS it

gradiant [8:49 PM] 
there's apparently some rule that was made because

[8:49] 
on Skype people were saying to take screenshots of not the actual logs, but the whole window, which would show all the rooms the person was in

[8:49] 
like a wolf chat

[8:50] 
and people were going 'take a screenshot of  your rooms and send in the next minute or you're a wolf'

rzr [8:52 PM] 
But that wasn't foolproof was it? I can understand it though completely now

[8:53] 
you're pretty good at that so far haha

gradiant [8:53 PM] 
good at what?

rzr [8:53 PM] 
explaining some of those rules to me

[8:53] 
to my understanding

[8:53] 
you started up shortly after I left right?

gradiant [8:53 PM] 
oh, yeah

[8:53] 
think so?

[8:54] 
don't remember when my first game was but it was the ffr tournament parallax game, would have to look through game history for the number

[8:55] 
think it was in like early 2013, didn't start playing until my account was like a year old

rzr [8:59 PM] 
I'm gonna come back to this when I get home in like 15 okay

gradiant [9:00 PM] 
alrighty, sounds good

rzr [11:15 PM] 
did he get it?

gradiant [11:45 PM] 
yeah, i sent

dLGN · 12-11-2015, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dLGN

rzr
storn42
XelNya
dabackpack
roundbox
KirinoKousaka
dLGN
botchi246

alive players list in the order i'd kill them this minute. only weird world i'd lose to is roundbox/AA at final 4 but i'm fairly sure the two of them aren't together?

obviously very tentative, still waiting for rzr to respond, among other things

updated order:

storn42
KirinoKousaka
dabackpack
rzr
XelNya
roundbox
dLGN
botchi246

rzr and xel can be flipped around right now. xel is far more prototypical town, rzr has bizarre reads and logic but is trying harder than almost everybody else. no clue what to do with backpack anymore this game, i'm hoping town just wins after storn/AA get lynched, tbh.

**AragakiAyase** · 12-11-2015, 11:37 AM

the omgus is so real here lmfao

your reads seem to revolve around how those people perceive you. Someone reads you town? oh they must be town. Someone reads you scum? oh they must be scum

dLGN · 12-11-2015, 12:01 PM

nah, has more to do with how forced things seem.

rzr has been reading me scum the entire game and I've had him up and down my list. his read is stubborn but it at least seems to waver a teenie tiny bit?

xel had no problem jumping on my wagon last night but I recalled that early convo I had with him when the log was posted, it felt inquisitive/gamesolvey, and I feel comfortable with him as town.

storn has been stuck in a rut the entire game and doubled down when I voted him, he's either a wolf or never going to solve this game.

you, AA, have been playing towny and very out in the open, but it just doesn't come across as genuine. I've had you confused with V and probably read you town by (mis)association, idk.

and similarly despite the fact that I tried to save/clear backpack he has only really had me as mafia, too?

the only person that holds true for is roundbox, but knowing I am not a wolf I don't think he makes the post he did last night as a wolf. I'm a mislynch he'd just take or like I said, I didn't really take all that much to pocket, if that was the motive, since I liked his post before the current day started quite a lot.

oh and botchi I cleared within seconds, before he gave a read on me.

**AragakiAyase** · 12-11-2015, 12:08 PM

[quote=dLGN;4383046]

you, AA, have been playing towny and very out in the open, but it just doesn't come across as genuine. I've had you confused with V and probably read you town by (mis)association, idk.

and similarly despite the fact that I tried to save/clear backpack he has only really had me as mafia, too?

the only person that holds true for is roundbox, but knowing I am not a wolf I don't think he makes the post he did last night as a wolf. I'm a mislynch he'd just take or like I said, I didn't really take all that much to pocket, if that was the motive, since I liked his post before the current day started quite a lot./QUOTE]

Does anyone actually believe this garbage? Because it still comes back to: people who read me town are town, people who read me scum are scum. And if you want to try and push the not genuine argument then at least come up with some examples, all you're doing is saying stuff which is really easy but not much else

12-11-2015, 01:18 AM	#1705
dLGN FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2015 Age: 37 Posts: 4	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) jfc i'm town, you're right, i've had you as town for a while and yeah, it's probably not a pocket because like I said, you didn't have to try that hard to stay as town for me, and I don't think you're just trying to look good for my flip. i've been thrown for a bit of a loop by the tokzic suicide and the timing of some of your more substantial posts but you're probably just town and it's a breath of fresh air. still need to take my time to evaluate who truly thinks I am a wolf and who is doing this out of convenience. things like rzr talking earlier about not being one to get on wagons but getting on this, while simultaneously bringing that fact up again is interesting. i was 2 votes away from insta lynch. ugh.

12-11-2015, 03:52 AM	#1710
dLGN FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2015 Age: 37 Posts: 4	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) oh yeah I liked that convo with xel, seemed super relaxed and like they were reading my posts trying to learn about me and who I am / how I play / my experience didn't really get that from anything in the thread, but yeah, i like xel as town. vote on storn looking better rn.

12-11-2015, 03:53 AM	#1711
dLGN FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2015 Age: 37 Posts: 4	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) i say "they" to be safe, sorry for being impersonal/rude. if any of you are female or want to be referred to as such lmk, otherwise I'll just go with he from now on.

12-11-2015, 11:37 AM	#1718
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 29 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) the omgus is so real here lmfao your reads seem to revolve around how those people perceive you. Someone reads you town? oh they must be town. Someone reads you scum? oh they must be scum __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

12-11-2015, 12:01 PM	#1719
dLGN FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2015 Age: 37 Posts: 4	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) nah, has more to do with how forced things seem. rzr has been reading me scum the entire game and I've had him up and down my list. his read is stubborn but it at least seems to waver a teenie tiny bit? xel had no problem jumping on my wagon last night but I recalled that early convo I had with him when the log was posted, it felt inquisitive/gamesolvey, and I feel comfortable with him as town. storn has been stuck in a rut the entire game and doubled down when I voted him, he's either a wolf or never going to solve this game. you, AA, have been playing towny and very out in the open, but it just doesn't come across as genuine. I've had you confused with V and probably read you town by (mis)association, idk. and similarly despite the fact that I tried to save/clear backpack he has only really had me as mafia, too? the only person that holds true for is roundbox, but knowing I am not a wolf I don't think he makes the post he did last night as a wolf. I'm a mislynch he'd just take or like I said, I didn't really take all that much to pocket, if that was the motive, since I liked his post before the current day started quite a lot. oh and botchi I cleared within seconds, before he gave a read on me.

12-11-2015, 12:08 PM	#1720
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 29 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) [quote=dLGN;4383046] you, AA, have been playing towny and very out in the open, but it just doesn't come across as genuine. I've had you confused with V and probably read you town by (mis)association, idk. and similarly despite the fact that I tried to save/clear backpack he has only really had me as mafia, too? the only person that holds true for is roundbox, but knowing I am not a wolf I don't think he makes the post he did last night as a wolf. I'm a mislynch he'd just take or like I said, I didn't really take all that much to pocket, if that was the motive, since I liked his post before the current day started quite a lot./QUOTE] Does anyone actually believe this garbage? Because it still comes back to: people who read me town are town, people who read me scum are scum. And if you want to try and push the not genuine argument then at least come up with some examples, all you're doing is saying stuff which is really easy but not much else __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

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