TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[AragakiAyase]

the thing is dlgn I didn't even say I was scumreading you in that post, I just pointed out some weird behavior and interactions with roundbox

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by dLGN

i've been called a wolf the entire game. if you think I am caving now you're mental. i just literally don't know why I have you as town. i've said that same thing before (that I a am mixing you up with V for some reason).

You just said that your would Lynch him if he didn't think you were town

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

i've been called a wolf the entire game. if you think I am caving now you're mental. i just literally don't know why I have you as town. i've said that same thing before (that I a am mixing you up with V for some reason).

no you've been bounced around quite a bit by a lot of people. I personally scumread you early, moved you up as town after I talked to you, moved you back down a bit when you lied, and you've been sitting on the fence for me since then. this now is lol though

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

i forget why i townread AA. I've been confusing you with V literally the entire game. but if you can't tell I am town you can die in place of dbp or roundbox, take your pick. i have 0 teammates.

this means you were planning on lynching dbp/round which is completely inconsistent with what you've been saying today. First, you think roundbox looks good (as I've pointed out). You think dbp looks scummy. but then there's this post:

Originally Posted by dLGN

i townread him largely because of the post from the night phase. sounded like a good bit of thought went into it. it looked good with the tokzic flip, however, I hadn't really considered that tokzic may have intentionally sacced himself at the time. if he did it was likely fairly premeditated and roundbox could get ahead of that flip with a post like that. you've also posted a few good points against him recently.

storn+roundbox may be the more likely team, tbh.

I really thought I had good reason to clear dbp earlier this game. then some weird stuff happened that I am not factoring in. now I am just thinking more about that check with the tokzic flip and who could be scum here if I am going to just hope rzr is town at this point.

you say in the world where storn is scum roundbox is a more likely partner than dbp? So dbp is less scummy than roundbox (already a major turnaround from earlier) but you have both as lynch candidates now?

we got one

[dLGN]

i will lynch any of you, yes. i have put too much effort into this game and half of what I say isn't even listened to.

[dLGN]

aa please, i posted a lynch order earlier, they were both in the middle. now that i'm feeling better about rzr everybody moves up.

[DaBackpack]

I really want to sound the roundbox read on dlgn now

[DaBackpack]

See*

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

aa please, i posted a lynch order earlier, they were both in the middle. now that i'm feeling better about rzr everybody moves up.

and what about storn? he's conveniently vanished even though he was right after rzr

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by dLGN

ok well here is the state of the game:

8 alive. 6 town, 2 wolves. if the wolves want to kill someone at night, they WILL be able to be caught at night, so it is a risk to them if they allow the security booth to be used and they choose not to freeze it.

to be clear - if the booth is used and NOT frozen, but some other place is, the check given, as well as the person giving it, are both 99% confirmed town, as the only mafia left who could roam would have to be in the AC room to freeze something.

the ONLY exception to this is if the movie stalker is the one to "use" the booth, in which case they could be giving a fake check or a real check. therefore, the person who gets a check should be REQUIRED to out it before the person they checked reports where they were at night. this way the mafia have a high chance of incorrectly giving a check on a town, and very likely are forced into checking their partner, basically pairing them for the rest of the game.

next post will be about what happens tonight

Originally Posted by dLGN

worst case: mislynch today, leaving 7 alive, 2 wolves and 5 town.

the following are available to hide in

1) The Dinosaur Den
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3) The Rockin' Rocks
4) The Big Bang Burrow
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7) Main Hall (never seals, kills half)
8) The IMAX Movie Theater (Gives list of # in attendance on first show. Movie stalker can kill one of attendees. Seals after first use)
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10) The Security Booth (Seering booth, if 2+ people use it, they eject into Main Hall)
11) The Bathrooms (3 uses maximum before sealing)

the movie theatre should not be used unless we lynch the movie stalker today. if we do, EVERYBODY should go there, including botchi.

this forces one of two things things that I will detail to botchi but would rather not include here for now.

one or two bathroom stalls are available. they should ONLY be used by botchi at this point. I'M SPEAKING TO EVERY OTHER TOWN IN THIS GAME ATM - DO NOT USE THE BATHROOMS. we only have one clear in this game and he is hit, he gets either one or two nights free in the bathrooms, we will find out in the morning if they overflow. there's really no reason to figure out how many stalls are free before then.

the security booth which I detailed in my previous post.

finally the main hall and 3 exhibits.

again, worst case, we mislynch and are left with 5 town and 2 wolves.

botchi goes in the bathrooms.

one gets sent to the security booth.

botchi sends pms to EVERY person in this game and tells them where to go. YOU GO THERE IF YOU ARE TOWN.

2 of us cannot move if a room is to freeze tonight, but people will be spread under the assumption that they are able to go where told, 1 to each of the exhibits and 2 to the main hall. the MAXIMUM number of deaths of EVERY. SINGLE. ROOM. tonight is 1. the minimum is 0 if they freeze an exhibit with nobody in it, which is unlikely.

the main hall is guaranteed 1 kill (the survivor is not confirmed, however)

the security booth is basically a forced kill for the mafia team and is very likely a town death or forces the person who goes there into claiming, which gets interesting but almost always good for town.

doing this ensures we have a clear tomorrow going into what would be final 6. suboptimal because of the even number but that's kind of out of our hands this game with the way night kills work.

NOT doing this and we always risk outright losing the game if we all independently decide and end up with a crowded room and the wolves hit it.

I AM TOWN. I AM DOING THIS FOR TOWN. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS.

if you think I do this as mafia i don't know what to tell you. but i'm pretty sure I can defend myself if this actually sticks around until EOD.

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

and what about storn? he's conveniently vanished even though he was right after rzr

aren't I voting him right now? yeah, still want him dead, too

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

if you think I do this as mafia i don't know what to tell you. but i'm pretty sure I can defend myself if this actually sticks around until EOD.

see when pressed you keep coming back to the same argument: "If you think I'm not town then you are scum/bad and I won't deal with you". that's not a defense.

Originally Posted by dLGN

aren't I voting him right now? yeah, still want him dead, too

ok so at this point you're just throwing out random lynches and it doesn't seem like you care if you hit town or mafia with them

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

I'm not too sure dlgn should be on this list

Originally Posted by dLGN

i forget why i townread AA. I've been confusing you with V literally the entire game. but if you can't tell I am town you can die in place of dbp or roundbox, take your pick. i have 0 teammates.

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I'm sorry I retract my aforementioned statement

Originally Posted by dLGN

i've been called a wolf the entire game. if you think I am caving now you're mental. i just literally don't know why I have you as town. i've said that same thing before (that I a am mixing you up with V for some reason).

No you are caving / mental now, there's zero reason not to have AA as town

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

i forget why i townread AA. I've been confusing you with V literally the entire game. but if you can't tell I am town you can die in place of dbp or roundbox, take your pick. i have 0 teammates.

to add to this: this has to be the worst excuse I've ever seen

[XelNya]

Like I'm thinking back to the early game a little

[XelNya]

Like thinking of this again

Originally Posted by dLGN

hi all, town here

Originally Posted by dLGN

I'm going to get right to it - I have not seen how the previous games in this series went but I have a proposition that I think is always pro-village.

If and when you townread me, if you are a homeless guy, I suggest you message me on slack. Rather than the two homeless guys try to find each other and message everybody don't worry about finding each other - just find me. I will vet the claim to the best of my ability and then put the homeless guys in contact with each other in order to coordinate night actions and maximize our chances as village.

I thought a lot about whether I would make this offer if I happened to rand wolf and concluded that, quite frankly, I didn't have the balls to try to pull this off as one of 3 scum in the game. But, if you want to be safe and hold off until you are more sure I am village, that's fair. I know I am new around here but I can assure you I am town and doing this with the belief that it only helps increase village's chances of winning this game.

How can the rest of you trust me? In short, I have no more to offer in the way of clearing myself than anybody else. But so long as the homeless guys don't get picked off the first night or two of this game, you can probably begin to trust that I am not a wolf taking advantage knowing the village PRs identities and night strategy..,

[dLGN]

i literally confused V with AA earlier in the game when someone asked me about then, and I said it. idk who it was with and don't really care to find it, if you think I am making that up whatever. that's a silly thing to make up as a wolf.

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Like thinking of this again

i open with that line every. single. game. I play. EVERY GAME.

and the other idea was superior to the fucking failure that happened this game, as I pointed out to charu.

I would have just done exactly what tokzic did if I were mafia and never told you idiots.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

i literally confused V with AA earlier in the game when someone asked me about then, and I said it. idk who it was with and don't really care to find it, if you think I am making that up whatever. that's a silly thing to make up as a wolf.

there you go again trying to say how "a wolf wouldn't do what I'm doing" and how that should make us read you town

[DaBackpack]

There is absolutely NO way that the Tokzic death isn't a kamikaze.

There is absolutely NO way the wolves DIDN'T discuss how they were going to benefit from a kamikaze. The wolves were on board and knew how to maximize the benefit from the Tokzic flip, as well as from the collapsed Kidz Zone.

I am certain the wolves, realizing that Tokzic was going to die, wanted to distance themselves because they knew it would look good on them when he flipped red.

So far, two people have tried to explicitly clear roundbox because of the megapost he made: roundbox and dlgn. Both have tried to use the flip to forward agendas.

As far as I'm concerned, this is wolf team behavior. I keep prodding roundbox for the dlgn reads, but I think he's doing dlgn last, possibly because of an admission that he himself made that he saves wolf partner reads for the end in fears of messing up.

dlgn or roundbox should die today