TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[Xiz]

points* rather

[Xiz]

dude honesty time dlgn


have you read the thread or not


because I can't take you seriously if you can't catch up

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by dLGN

wanting to test someone using your check is towny. i would have likely tried the same thing, despite it not necessarily being conclusive.

like I said, wanting to test him is towny, and then coming to the thread after you get "confirmation" that you believe clears them is also towny and reasonable. the couple of minutes is what I would expect, not suspicious.

[Vendetta21]

The thing that makes it weird is that you never, in any possible scenario, get any information from the test, dLGN.

But in the scenario where tokzic is a wolf it is possible he took advantage of the situation to sabotage a bathroom slot, or that he was the movie stalker stuck in the theatre, etc. and never used the seering booth.

[Vendetta21]

In that scenario he needs to come up with a seering to state publicly, which is why the details about the order of operations here is something that deserves scrutiny and investigation.

[dLGN]

disagree. if you are planning on fakeclaiming I think you are never the movie stalker. potentially getting yourself lynched d1 or d2 for fakeclaiming is not worth a fking bathroom slot. xiz claimed under pressure, claiming there is about survival, that IS something to gain, as a wolf. it's really pretty simple.

[Tokzic]

regarding this post also

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

no my problem is you didnt reveal when you had two (i.e. when botchi came out to you) and a healthy dose of skepticism at that point would have been to say "another hobo has come out to me" in order to ensure no counterclaims and to trust the botchi claim you had. unless you were still expecting a counterclaim, which if you are faking is much more likely a thing you would do knowing that you would still need one more person to come out to you. sorry that didnt come across clearly.

also you werent online on slack when i messaged you on steam, and you had been online 3 minutes ago on steam when i sent that message, and by the time you came back online the three hobo situation emerged not too long afterwards, to clarify that situation.

also, on the note of me claiming the kidz room, if i say i'm taking it because i don't trust it to work out otherwise, especially if i don't know you are a hobo and you're saying "i think the hobos should take it", obviously and naturally the only way to dispel me from that is to communicate with my directly that "i am a hobo and i want the kidz room", because my logic has been straightforward that "i dont trust anything to work unless we make it work

I didn't feel the need to publicly state botchi had come to me because we were following a plan, that I had posted twice - once before I came out, and once as I came out.

If I had felt any doubts about botchi's claim, I might have deviated from the plan and stated that the other hobo had come to me publicly, but I didn't, so I didn't.

Also, the second time I stated my plan - when I publicly announced my role - I did ask you again for the fourth or fifth time to de-occupy Kidz Zone. This was your response, knowing that I was a hobo:

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

I'm not going to give up the kidz zone tonight, sorry

And that bit about me being offline at the time is bullshit, I was 100% online in the Slack when you messaged me on Steam. I had conversations going on when you messaged me. The only way this could possibly be true is if my internet was blinking, and I don't remember it misbehaving at the time.

[dLGN]

they're using your online status as evidence that you are a wolf, now, too? that's cute.

[Vendetta21]

He is saying his first instinct and thought was to test DBP, and I want to confirm that is what he means, that the first thing he thought when he sat down and got his PM back was to message DBP about it to test him.

[Vendetta21]

tokzic is your status in slack set to away or was it? That would explain why you appeared offline at the time

[Vendetta21]

You also almost played DotA with me during the night phase so you could have talked to me about it, remember I ended up in a party with roundbox because your game lasted too long?

[dLGN]

that would be my first instinct. i even talked about it in the writeup I wrote. It's not meaningless, but yes, it's also not confirming beyond a doubt.

if he's fake the issue is not his check, which is what this argument sounds like. but really it's more about tokzic being fake considering your votes. that seems like agenda more than scumhunting.

[Tokzic]

i'm gonna be gone for a while for christmas shopping, i'll be back some time before eod

[dLGN]

my status in slack is set to away right now, same as I am appearing offline here on the forums. that's never a point worth bringing up wrt alignment.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

i'm gonna be gone for a while for christmas shopping, i'll be back some time before eod

better get me something good - like an FFR shirt

[rzr]

Originally Posted by dLGN

my status in slack is set to away right now, same as I am appearing offline here on the forums. that's never a point worth bringing up wrt alignment.

This is very very true. But it is really really fucking annoying. I was asked to come off of invisible status when in games. Not setting a precedent or anything, but for example I see AA posting ITT and away in the chat, which is ass backwards imo. Same with you posting ITT.
So I see 10 people viewing the thread and 2 people on slack. Annoying, but not relevant to the game or this phase, just commenting.

[AragakiAyase]

ok I think I just got food poisoning but I'll try to keep up

I'm confused why DoTA is a factor here, is it because toxzic specifically seemed disinterested in the game, especially considering his supposed role here? Because unless it's that applying activity to determine alignment is definitely not going to work in this game as it is right now

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by dLGN

my status in slack is set to away right now, same as I am appearing offline here on the forums. that's never a point worth bringing up wrt alignment.

It's not w/r/t alignment he's complaining that I messaged him on steam when he was offline, please read the thread thoroughly

[AragakiAyase]

*tokzic idk why I keep saying toxzic

[dLGN]

like you're pushing a couple different odd lines here:

1. tokzic seemed to think his check was confirming and tested backpack with it. this isn't true (but it's likely true) so backpack isn't clear guys!

2. also tokzic is probably a wolf for being wrong about the first point

you seem to want both parts of this to be known but are more interested in the lynch part, by being emphatic about the check situation.