TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) - Page 51

**storn42** · 12-7-2015, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

if V is wolf we're all fucked but I don't think a wolf would risk going into kids zone when some town could kamikaze him easily

by claiming that he's in the kidz zone nobody would be stupid enough to risk themselves in the case that its full. he doesn't even need to hide there. were you in the security booth looking at V and seeing that he hid in the kidz zone?

**storn42** · 12-7-2015, 12:27 AM

the fucking job of the woofs is to lie to us.

rzr · 12-7-2015, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by storn42

by claiming that he's in the kidz zone nobody would be stupid enough to risk themselves in the case that its full. he doesn't even need to hide there. were you in the security booth looking at V and seeing that he hid in the kidz zone?

This should be a decent point for n2

**storn42** · 12-7-2015, 12:27 AM

dont believe everything you read.

**Vendetta21** · 12-7-2015, 12:28 AM

Also for the record an accusation should still be defended, as in the case where Storn accused me of being fishy and I explained myself to him so he understood my behavior. Blithely saying "not a question" is pedantic, like you're trying to put up a semantic stop-sign that says "well, there isn't a question mark so this doesn't matter" when it absolutely does because they are accusations about your motivations which you should be able to articulate

**AragakiAyase** · 12-7-2015, 12:33 AM

storn is town
rzr is town
V is town

dbp is leaning town
round/dlgn are ???
charu/xel are UTR and idk what that says

**Vendetta21** · 12-7-2015, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by storn42

by claiming that he's in the kidz zone nobody would be stupid enough to risk themselves in the case that its full. he doesn't even need to hide there. were you in the security booth looking at V and seeing that he hid in the kidz zone?

I'm going in again you may kill me if you want to. If I'm lying about going in you will know I am a wolf, if you honestly believe I'm a wolf and I will be there then it's a cost effective one-for-one trade. I am a human and I'm securing this place for late-game when it is most valuable because I believe I am the most annoying threat to the wolves when I am here because they feel they can't get rid of me.

DaBackpack · 12-7-2015, 12:43 AM

sTORN

**storn42** · 12-7-2015, 12:46 AM

ok... so V and dbp aren't both wolves. dont think dbp would want me to say something that 100% convicts his partner of being a lier and therefore woof. btw, i didn't hide in the kidz zone.

DaBackpack · 12-7-2015, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by storn42

ok... so V and dbp aren't both wolves. dont think dbp would want me to say something that 100% convicts his partner of being a lier and therefore woof. btw, i didn't hide in the kidz zone.

dude you got my hopes way up

DaBackpack · 12-7-2015, 12:51 AM

damn dude I got out of bed for this

**AragakiAyase** · 12-7-2015, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by storn42

ok... so V and dbp aren't both wolves. dont think dbp would want me to say something that 100% convicts his partner of being a lier and therefore woof. btw, i didn't hide in the kidz zone.

ok dbp is town

**Vendetta21** · 12-7-2015, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by storn42

ok... so V and dbp aren't both wolves. dont think dbp would want me to say something that 100% convicts his partner of being a lier and therefore woof. btw, i didn't hide in the kidz zone.

i genuinely respect what you are trying to do, and i see this as a good play. i don't know how i could convince you that i was there last night, but i think you should focus on the point of your initial skepticism and read my reasoning for vote switching which is why you were (i believe) distrusting towards me

**AragakiAyase** · 12-7-2015, 12:58 AM

I still think V is town even if he could be lying about the kids zone. It's just like he said, one human for one wolf is always a good trade in this setup and a wolf would be very reluctant to risk that. All it takes is one brave human (maybe storn in this case) with a scumread on said wolf and dead

**Vendetta21** · 12-7-2015, 01:01 AM

i'm not lying about it, lol. i absolutely am going in there, went last night, for sure going tonight. in the early stages of the game my thinking was "oh god coordinating plans in this game is going to be a clusterfuck and i dont trust any of you" and my immediate next thought was "if i yell it loud enough and long enough no one will take the kidz zone from me and i will survive into lategame easily" and then the subsequent thought was "holy shit if we kill two wolves its near impossible for them to win if we keep the kidz zone up.

**storn42** · 12-7-2015, 01:01 AM

are you going to the kidz zone tonight?

**Vendetta21** · 12-7-2015, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by storn42

are you going to the kidz zone tonight?

right now, yes. if xiz flips red and confirms tokzic and botchi, i would let them have it if they wanted it.

rzr · 12-7-2015, 01:13 AM

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to scumread him?

rzr [2:03 AM]
oh I thought you meant to jump in the kidz zone

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and that's only if a majority are readinh im that way

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or perhaps dlgn

aragakiayase [2:03 AM]
I don't understand

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you want to jump in the kids zone why

rzr [2:04 AM]
I thought you were saying that

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To test V

[2:04]
meaning

aragakiayase [2:04 AM]
well I'm saying someone could easily do that

rzr [2:04 AM]
if he's scum and he stays there and I go in we both die we get a wolf

aragakiayase [2:04 AM]
and if V is a wolf then rip

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and if V isn't actually hiding there then he's a wolf

rzr [2:04 AM]
if he leaves and I go in we know he was bsing and is prob a wolf

aragakiayase [2:04 AM]
but if he's town??

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then we probably lose 2 town

rzr [2:04 AM]
yep

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that's why I said a mojority would need to support this

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and we could force a more suspected person to do this instead

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like charu or dlgn

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whos flip would still be beneficial/possibly

aragakiayase [2:05 AM]
oh I see what you're saying

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I just thought of something interesting but very risky

rzr [2:05 AM]
actually this isn't a bad idea

aragakiayase [2:05 AM]
if we have some very strong scumreads but it's night

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send them into the kids zone lol

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of course that could potentially fuck us hard

rzr [2:09 AM]
so say we do it with dlgn

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he already said he'd love to kamkaze lol

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say we go in the thread and propose the idea to have him go into the kidz zone and only if people really suspect vendetta. if dlgn comes out alive he either lied and didn't go in or V didn't wanna risk it as scum. Either way unless he's 100% dlgn's town he would have to go head to head with him in that situation.

either they're both town OR V leaves and he's busted OR they both die and we get 2 flips. If they're both scum I think neither would go

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alternatively we can tell V to get the hell out and do this to a more suspected group

**XelNya** · 12-7-2015, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

charu/xel are UTR and idk what that says

**Vendetta21** · 12-7-2015, 02:32 AM

the kidz zone is strongest if it remains unused until late game and a cleared person goes in there. the only people who should be worried about the kidz zone right now are people who are worried about me securing the late game by going in there every night. i am keeping it safe for lategame where it fucks the wolves.

it's strongest in this use and much, much weaker with any other use. i will be in the kidz zone tonight and if you honestly believe i'm a wolf then you can kill me. i will be there.

right now the kidz zone nearly secures the third wolf, i am going to keep going into it because i trust myself and no one else.

12-7-2015, 12:28 AM	#1005
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 37 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) Also for the record an accusation should still be defended, as in the case where Storn accused me of being fishy and I explained myself to him so he understood my behavior. Blithely saying "not a question" is pedantic, like you're trying to put up a semantic stop-sign that says "well, there isn't a question mark so this doesn't matter" when it absolutely does because they are accusations about your motivations which you should be able to articulate __________________

12-7-2015, 12:33 AM	#1006
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 29 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) storn is town rzr is town V is town dbp is leaning town round/dlgn are ??? charu/xel are UTR and idk what that says __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

12-7-2015, 12:58 AM	#1014
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 29 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) I still think V is town even if he could be lying about the kids zone. It's just like he said, one human for one wolf is always a good trade in this setup and a wolf would be very reluctant to risk that. All it takes is one brave human (maybe storn in this case) with a scumread on said wolf and dead __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

12-7-2015, 01:01 AM	#1015
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 37 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) i'm not lying about it, lol. i absolutely am going in there, went last night, for sure going tonight. in the early stages of the game my thinking was "oh god coordinating plans in this game is going to be a clusterfuck and i dont trust any of you" and my immediate next thought was "if i yell it loud enough and long enough no one will take the kidz zone from me and i will survive into lategame easily" and then the subsequent thought was "holy shit if we kill two wolves its near impossible for them to win if we keep the kidz zone up. __________________

12-7-2015, 02:32 AM	#1020
Vendetta21 Sectional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Age: 37 Posts: 2,745	Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live) the kidz zone is strongest if it remains unused until late game and a cleared person goes in there. the only people who should be worried about the kidz zone right now are people who are worried about me securing the late game by going in there every night. i am keeping it safe for lategame where it fucks the wolves. it's strongest in this use and much, much weaker with any other use. i will be in the kidz zone tonight and if you honestly believe i'm a wolf then you can kill me. i will be there. right now the kidz zone nearly secures the third wolf, i am going to keep going into it because i trust myself and no one else. __________________

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