TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[Xiz]

This has been TWG Chaos, spicing up your hobo life, singing out~

[Xiz]

kill xel over cahur

[YoshL]

day is over

[YoshL]

Votes from post 820 to post 1355
Night in 0:00:40
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 6 -- Xiz -- Charu (23), dLGN (57), Tokzic (16), botchi246 (3), DaBackpack (59), XelNya (21)
• 4 -- Tokzic -- Xiz (91), Vendetta21 (106), storn42 (36), AragakiAyase (63)
• 1 -- storn42 -- rzr (40)
• 1 -- not voting -- roundbox (14)

:00 good :01 bad

Xig is dead

he was

A homeless guy

24 hour night, ends in 24 hours because it's a 24 hour phase. 10:00 PM EST. on Wednesday

Roundbox has a phantom

[Tokzic]

oh

my

fucking

god

it was actually botchi

[roundbox]

posting some random thoughts and bullshit

-V is so fucking town right now, and will probably be 100% clear when tokzic flips wolf. His thought process of flipping between Xiz and tokzic for lynch candidacy looks natural. His case and complete reversal on Tokzic definitely would clear him when tokzic's flip happens: this does not seem like the bus that V usually goes for, which I've noticed as I've played two wolf games with him now.

Originally Posted by Tokzic

oh

my

fucking

god

it was actually botchi

-this looks fake as shit

-on the tokzic/botchi idea: I favor botchi over this partly because he's new. I don't think a new wolf player (and I know some people would disagree with this fact, I know rzr would) would fake claim. It feels more of a "hey I got a special role this game, and this guy is telling me that I should talk to him since he says he has a special role too". It just seems like the new player move to me here. Occam's razor says that he's probably not a TWG god here or was led by a potential wolf teammate to claim to him.

botchi246 [7:10 PM] 
Why would we use the bathroom already

tokzic [7:10 PM] 
wolves are probably going to be burning our bathroom charges

botchi246 [7:11 PM] 
Oh yah forgot about that new twist

tokzic [7:11 PM] 
so we gotta use em while we got em

botchi246 [7:15 PM] 
If two use kidz zone and one is hobo, will hobo survive the collapse

tokzic [7:15 PM] 
100%

​[7:15] 
50% chance it'll use his freezeproof though

​[7:15] 
since he'll be in main hall

​[7:15] 
who are your top human reads right now

​[7:16] 
i like charu, ayase, rzr, xiz most

botchi246 [7:16 PM] 
Dlgn,rzr,charu,round

​[7:16] 
AA is on the fence for me

​[7:17] 
He just said he was xontemplating asking for security booth before you claimed

tokzic [7:17 PM] 
let's not give it to him lmao

​[7:18] 
are you down with rzr or charu going for it

botchi246 [7:18 PM] 
Since you claimed you should go booth

tokzic [7:18 PM] 
the thing about me going booth is

botchi246 [7:18 PM] 
Id be more comfortable if charu went

tokzic [7:18 PM] 
wolves freezing it would be

​[7:18] 
completely terrible

there are a few lines in here that stick out to me.

-Tokzic proposing that rzr or Charu (???) use the security booth. Tokzic later decided neither of them and took it for himself after Xiz budged. Xiz agreeing to budge here is interesting, as it was the height of his suspicion. Tokzic did contact both of them even after botchi said he would prefer Charu. He told rzr to not use the booth after Xiz moved and took advantage of the situation in his favor.

-Tokzic's belief that Charu is the towniest player (at this point) is pretty fucked considering his correspondence is incredibly, incredibly tiny. No, seriously, go read it and tell me this screams of a conversation someone trying to be a "super hobo" and pushing a strategy/leading town has with his largest town read. This doesn't add up.

Originally Posted by Tokzic

roundbox

- Roundbox's early game was concerning to me. Normally town roundbox is very helpful in terms of processing the format and thinking of ideal ways to use roles (and rooms in this case). Not only did he not really produce anything early, but I was kind of surprised he didn't at least respond to other people's thoughts on format - Charu's, my initial question about whether hobos should claim, dlgn's plan, my plan either of the times I posted it...

- After this feedback came out of a few people, he started proposing trying to use the bathrooms to catch people. This struck me weird because after some thinking what he was proposing would never be able to catch a wolf, but would only use up our bathroom charges for nothing. Reread our our PMs on this.

-I was talking with dlgn and his plan for a solid hour on the first day as I was one of the only ones to agree with his idea. In fact, my "how to use bathrooms" idea that you reference in the second point in your post was inspired by dlgn's plan of having one guy at the head of the operation assigning people to rooms. In hindsight I recognize how shitty this plan is considering wolves can be noncompliant and easily get away with it. I was spending most of the first day thinking solely about the setup, and in fact I told multiple people that I was ignoring reads until I figured out how to approach the game. My personal strategy for the game I have not shared publicly, and have only mentioned so in a PM with another player.

-Hey, wait a minute here, that bathroom idea was proposed ONLY TO YOU. Your wording here makes it sound like I was pushing this idea on multiple people and trying to coerce them into following it. Not cool, man. I know it clashes with your conception of the utility of bathrooms, but simply disagreeing with my fleeting idea does not make the this a wolfy point. Other players (including you, mr. "I'm gonna bring up the IMAX theater after I successfully lynched a blue" and plant the idea in people's heads even though I immediately dismiss it) have brought up ideas that don't work.

-General reads:
TOWN: AA, dabackpack, rzr, V, BOTCHI
TOWN-ISH: dlgn
NULL AKA GET RELEVANT: Xel, Charu, storn
SCUMMY: tokzic

[roundbox]

also throwing out my PM with Xiz that we had in skype. not sure if I shared this before but here it is: http://pastebin.com/byWfVtct

[roundbox]

if I survive the night I'm gonna look at the GET RELEVANT people (Charu, Xel, storn) next

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by roundbox

if I survive the night I'm gonna look at the GET RELEVANT people (Charu, Xel, storn) next

charu gave one of the reactions I liked the most this game. would be impressed if he was a wolf.

the other two you named, xel and storn, I would vote on in a heartbeat.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by roundbox

if I survive the night I'm gonna look at the GET RELEVANT people (Charu, Xel, storn) next

I would rather see your dlgn analysis first (you have him at town-ish iirc)

[Charu]

...Welp, Tokzic, you were convincing, I'll give you that.

gg

So anyways... now that's over with, Tokzic, how's it feel, you now have the power to randomly post in this thread and post random shenanigans.

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by Charu

So anyways... now that's over with, Tokzic, how's it feel, you now have the power to randomly post in this thread and post random shenanigans.

except i can't because i'm not the one fakeclaiming and i'm going to be way too busy figuring out who botchi's partners are with conviction so i can atone for this colossal fucking misplay

i am so sorry town

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

except i can't because i'm not the one fakeclaiming and i'm going to be way too busy figuring out who botchi's partners are with conviction so i can atone for this colossal fucking misplay

i am so sorry town

I've see this line a lot (in EM lmfao) and it never convinces me

[storn42]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

except i can't because i'm not the one fakeclaiming and i'm going to be way too busy figuring out who botchi's partners are with conviction so i can atone for this colossal fucking misplay

i am so sorry town

and im sure xiz's lynch based on the fact that he thoguht he had a woof and was wrong was a good reason to lynch our hobo.

[Tokzic]

The only time I've ever felt stupider in the history of TWG was Smash Bros final 3.

God fucking damn it.

[Charu]

lmao, please, I highly doubt that. Tokzic, you're not seriously saying you're a PR after that, are you?

[DaBackpack]

my mouth is literally ajar

I need to reevaluate literally everything

[DaBackpack]

tokzic even though it doesn't matter

[dLGN]

no regrets, don't claim wolf and laugh about pushing the gradiant lynch when you learn that the "slip" you called out wasn't.

i hate this game.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by dLGN

no regrets, don't claim wolf and laugh about pushing the gradiant lynch when you learn that the "slip" you called out wasn't.

i hate this game.

I don't like this response