TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

only 1 kill means there's no SK
except that's flawed logic

You. Stop that. I know that.

[XelNya]

As a side note I think I wrote number three wrong.

[XelNya]

In that what I was going for was this post makes him really dislikable, but doing that creates this weird aura of that it makes jumping it awkward?

I have this concept of what I am trying to say, but fuck me, I cannot figure out how to phrase it.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

but fuck me

This is not an invitation btw

plz don't actually do that.

[XelNya]

/bad joke

/not sorry

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Honestly if anything that post I quoted earlier is scummy as fuck

Because the only thing it does is make it harder to lynch him

Like let's ignore day zero for a minute



Here's what's scummy about this.

1. He's abusing his self voting shenanigans.

2. The speed of this post is disgusting. Two goddamned minutes.

3. Some taunting to help sell him as a good target for a wagon.

/though I am curious about the "wrong about dbp" part. What makes you so confident there? I must have missed something. :/

4. The location of this post.

This post is in a spot right at the beginning trying to sell him as a framed townie right away. Doesn't really even feel like he was surprised at all here.

But this just ignores day 0 entirely. I might have missed some stuff.

Also





As a side note I work 2pm - 11PM now.

So it's more like an afternoon - late evening shift. Technically saying I am 2nd shift isn't wrong.

Work Sunday - Wednesday.

But anyways Zenith needs to explain how he did that quoted post so fast. You can type as fast as you want, but to read and process that information should take longer than that. The only decent explanation I come up with is he knew it was coming.

Or tldr: My issue with that post is that it's located at a really bad spot, and contains stuff I think he shouldn't have known and processed that quickly.

Rereading and this is the first post that caught my eye so I'll answer it for ya.

I was here in-thread at 7:59 server time (just slightly before sunfan posted he was getting stuff ready). I already knew how to come into the phase oddly enough with that post, but you definitely missed where I took out the DBP part because YoshL can still be right due to no-kill being a thing. I though, have no choice but to admit that I was wrong in my persecution of ymia.

It takes less than a minute to read a short post such as the night kill one, plus, I can always reread it later. What I did skim was who died and what role. Once I saw the name YoshL I knew right away the wolf team is trying to incriminate me who displays the willingness of dying so they want an easy pass into d2.

Sure, it was presumptuous of me to self vote there and say I cannot persuade you guys into letting me live (after a YMIA/YoshL town flip). I can give this phase hell and that's what I plan on doing after seeing such a pathetic wolf play.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

only 1 kill means there's no SK
except that's flawed logic

This is a reiteration of what I stated though I jumped the gun in immediately assuming yoshl was wrong from only 1 kill where no kill is possible and probably used.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Also, don't think zenith should be lock-cleared or whatever for the self voting or hammering attempts. He's done that bullshit in the past and got townread for it so he knows as a wolf what it could do to help him. Him thinking he was going to hammer himself at EOD could easily be a lie since he wasn't close to insta and, knowing zenith, he had likely been keeping track of how many votes he had and who had placed them. And now he's gone from saying he needs to die this phase and can't possibly defend himself to saying "would a townie really hammer themselves there? I'm town" to hinting that he's a PR despite apparently trying to kill hinself without a claim???? It stinky.

You voice these concerns every time I do it but it's mainly due to how you've seen me use the same situations as a wolf and be unanimously townread for it.



I seriously thought I hammered myself though which is why there was a buffer in my posting until sunfan's VC came up. You fuckers decided to hardpush onto ymia.

[_Zenith_]

Being a PR here would be fucking swell right now.

[_Zenith_]

By the way, V is a wolf here.

I'm coming up with a reads list but right now V is by far scummier than anyone else imo.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Also, don't think zenith should be lock-cleared or whatever for the self voting or hammering attempts. He's done that bullshit in the past and got townread for it so he knows as a wolf what it could do to help him. Him thinking he was going to hammer himself at EOD could easily be a lie since he wasn't close to insta and, knowing zenith, he had likely been keeping track of how many votes he had and who had placed them. And now he's gone from saying he needs to die this phase and can't possibly defend himself to saying "would a townie really hammer themselves there? I'm town" to hinting that he's a PR despite apparently trying to kill hinself without a claim???? It stinky.

Yeah, but when is the last time he straight up tried to hammer himself? I know he always pushes himself towards top lynch vote but not to the extent of self hammer.

And on your interpretation of Xel: he hasn't done so for me and won't do so until he provides a solid answer to the question I posed last night.

[_Zenith_]

Too bad there is no possibility of a fool being in this setup because man I would be killing it in the "must be a fool" category.

[_Zenith_]

I'm gonna go hit up some SSBM and then I will return with a reads list so stay tuned.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Too bad there is no possibility of a fool being in this setup because man I would be killing it in the "must be a fool" category.

What was the point of this comment?

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by roundbox

What was the point of this comment?

WIFOM

[_Zenith_]

1. Vendetta21 - Red Lean
2. MrPopadopalis25 - Town
3. XelNya - Null with the slightest green lean
4. rzr - Slight red, mostly null
5. _Zenith_ - Cheesecake
6. DaBackPack - Possible Wolf but town lean for now
7. roundbox - Slight Town
8. Charu - Town
9. Red Blaster - Null
10. AragakiAyase - Town
11. choof - Same read as DBP

V -

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

DBP's entire train of logic is bullshit and he's doubling down on a point after multiple people have told him it's sort've a non-point.

first off, he's asking charu to behave in some sort of "this is generally the play humans always make" except it's a play i don't always expect humans to make and he's negging him for specific behavior lacking from charu that is hella minor esp. w/r/t charu, and just drilling the point into the ground.

i don't quite see his logic on charu and i feel like it's forced

Outside of d0, this is the only scumhunting post I've seen from V thus far. It doesn't seem like he is trying to scumhunt and some of his posts here have been inquiries on his own reads that failed to be correct.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

i know you might think my short attention span and desire to fight might cause me to change votes but i'm holding it here until i feel satisfied that you're human

Zenith-tier tunneling right here. How does one become satisfied that someone is human by simply holding a vote on said person? V and DBP exchanged words but none of it progressed to Vs read on DBP. This sends me into sketchy territory with him.

V

Xel - He is holding back and it is evident that he is doing so. It makes me want to pin him as a wolf suspect but it could be another alignment that holds back. By holding back, I mean there is little to no aggression other than some quirks and comments which is out of character for Xel. Xel is the type of player who consistently bashes others to get his reads formulated and also incites reactions from bashing. Other than that, his big posts have been what is keeping him in the green imo but other than that he is slightly scummy.

rzr -

Originally Posted by rzr

will be back early Am *yawn* #dontcallslank #ifyoudoI'lldestroyurargument

Weird as fuck post because we know he cannot destroy an argument.

Originally Posted by rzr

again what about us

Shows defensive qualities that I picked up on earlier when he debated he wasn't defending. This is clear cut being defensive because this is the second time he wanted to know "what about us" from ymia right before EoD. I would assume the reasoning behind being apprehensive about knowing what ymia thought about rzr/other player shows he is keen to what others read him and imo that is his wolf meta.

Besides going against RB, he has displayed zero willingness to pursue a lynch on someone by himself; using others comments to influence his thought process while responding to everything thrown at him (again, in a defensive manner as he is being incited to respond).

DBP - I say possible wolf because of interactions but it is flimsy so I cannot in clear conscious put him at red but having the most posts in the game is a typical DBP action. I don't really give a shit by saying this but DBP is cautious enough to throw a PR flag towards my direction. The read can be flipped into a red one due to the cautiousness but again, I think it is a stronger town read than a wolf read.

DBP dipped his finger in everyone except a few players including myself and imo if he is a wolf this is either a breadcrumbing attempt or a pseudo-distancing stunt to frame people he hasn't delved into yet if at all.

Roundbox - Short and simple; haven't seen scummy material from Roundbox yet. He is playing aloof and I feel like that is a town-orientated mindset. Cautious about players like me who he townreads not participating to their full which is another town-telling trait he currently has, and his big posts have been pretty straightforward in the message he is trying to put out there. Given enough effort, if Round pins a wolf then his town lean becomes a confirmed town read.

Charu - Like Xel but less scummier, he is holding back (slowly as of recently receding holding back). Like DBP, could be a PR in the sense of holding back but there is little to no evidence of DBP or Charu being a PR due to the self-containment they show. Other than that, Charu has sent town vibes my way since entering.

RB - Null, and I don't have enough on RB to formulate a good read so I'm gonna null until I fully isolate this man.

AA - Imo, he is town here. With his style of defense against pressure it seems like a townie defending their right to live plus a few other towntelling meta points I've seen from him. I have a small dash of being frightened at the fact he can be a wolf with the incrimination stunt.

Choof - Iunno man, he is being extremely contradictory with some of his posts. "Want to be rushed? Because I will lynch you" [reiteration] and then pres'd the fuck out of me for who knows what reason but he gave a "if ymia flips town you will be lynched d1" [reiteration] reasoning. He does this as town or wolf so I can't conclude what side he leans towards.

[_Zenith_]

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I hope YoshL is fumigating at this.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

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I hope YoshL is fumigating at this.

Irrelevant to game but I just had to say this out of spite.

[AragakiAyase]

about zenith's read on V: V put his vote on charu, not DBP. He wasn't going after DBP although it seemed like he might pursue DBP later in the future

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

about zenith's read on V: V put his vote on charu, not DBP. He wasn't going after DBP although it seemed like he might pursue DBP later in the future

Regardless of who it was, it is a zenith-tier play to tunnel in on that with such flimsy reasoning.