TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm entertaining two narratives in my mind about YoshL

The easiest answer is that he's a wolf, but he's said some particular things that don't fit with that narrative

plus he's not really here, so that's easy to exploit by wolves if he's not a wolf

what's the second narrative? last point is true, I don't like going with lynches where people can get away with little accountability which is a problem with ymia lynch as plop pointed out

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

We are in the last 1.5 hours of this phase and you're going to react to a vote post, on yourself no less, with that?

You're being considered more and more as a lynch candidate, and you're almost passive. Spare me.

AragakiAyase

it's funny that you say this when you're in much greater danger of being lynched yourself

can you come up with better reads than what you've given? pick one person to either clear or tunnel, even if it's me for the latter

[yo man im awesome]

I think we need to save rzr for tomorrow; he's playing exceptionally badly, but again, we are nearing the last hour of this phase, people.

[DaBackpack]

I want to vote AA for asking that question

[roundbox]

Quickies:

I don't like how YoshL has taken a backseat for the tail-end of this phase. He started off strong and garnered some reactions, but has since faded into the background. His red blaster vote was pretty bad. He had virtually no interactions with red blaster until he dropped his vote on him. He hasn't really done much to develop a case against red blaster aside from this post.

Hi Charu

It's nice to see choof back in action and some of his recent interactions I'm identifying as townie. Examples being his interactions with plop (pondering options, asking solid questions) and ymia (not drilling the lynch into him but putting him into the position for negotiation).

I understand that V's busy, but he's lacking the WIM he had last C9++ game where he got the pro vigi shot on Manti. That and C9++ is his favorite game format and I'd expect some more.

AA I think is my towniest player today. Posts like this remind me of his defense when he was getting scumread in the Slopefiring game (interactions with me, choof, and jrodd).

DaBackpack has at least emerged from the woodwork and I feel like I need to evaluate his most recent posts before saying more

I feel better vibes from Zenith now than I did before. His reaction to my questioning earlier in the phase I felt was solid, but I do agree with the people who have been tossing around the observation that Zenith is missing his commanding aura this game. Possibly due to work/vidya, but I'm comfortable putting him in town lean at the moment. I tend to find the higher frequency at which I agree with Zenith, the more concerned I am about him being a wolf.

Xel I mentioned before

gonna be completely honest, I haven't looked into red blaster that much since he was super inactive for the first half of the phase.

rzr I mentioned before, but I will say this recent voting pattern was fucky

ymia's wagon looks relatively clean which makes me feel confident about my garbage read on him

[thesunfan]

Votecount:
Zenith (1)- Plop
red blaster (1)- Yoshl
AA (1)- ymia
YMIA (4)- Zenith, V, DBP, choof
plop (1)- Charu
Xel (1)- rzr

[DaBackpack]

but votecount

[rzr]

Ayy look at that.

Okay so let's start here: everybody gave me shit for not wanting to vote, since then I think I've used it decently and understood better why you guys said that.
That said, I see AA getting all this pressure right now, and I see him ressponding well to choof, but not to me for the exact same thing (me and choof were inda melding).
Okay, so I decide to throw my vote on AA because he would either start reacting better or freak out, and he reacted just fine. I also did it and I said this I think, because ymia just said he could get behind an AA lynch, looking for that bus. So I gave him his opportunity and he took it.

Does that clarify?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

I think we need to save rzr for tomorrow; he's playing exceptionally badly, but again, we are nearing the last hour of this phase, people.

you know thats plenty of time, right?

i mean i know your everyones go to target right now, but chill and ride it out, buddy.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

Ay you guys are the ones that told me to use my vote. First off, that list doesn't incorporate everything that's happened after it obviously.
Second, I still don't think he's wolfy. He's responding to you just fine, but if ymia wants to jump on it or if AA responded poorly that would tell me/us a lot more, amiright?

the second reason (reaction test) is fine
the first reason is not, classic sheeping

and I thought you were scumreading ymia, why the fuck would you sheep a scumread?

[rzr]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

I think we need to save rzr for tomorrow; he's playing exceptionally badly, but again, we are nearing the last hour of this phase, people.

No lol, I just caught your slip.

I wish I could save you guys the time of digging into my reads list and just read where I just said I don't suspect AA lol

[Red Blaster]

Rzr is being really odd with where he's trying to apply pressure @_@

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

the second reason (reaction test) is fine
the first reason is not, classic sheeping

and I thought you were scumreading ymia, why the fuck would you sheep a scumread?

What do you mean? It literally just confirmed to me that he's scum
. Maybe I dont understand what you're asking here

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I want to vote AA for asking that question

do it

[DaBackpack]

what do you think the second narrative is

I doubt he's the SK

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

it's funny that you say this when you're in much greater danger of being lynched yourself

can you come up with better reads than what you've given? pick one person to either clear or tunnel, even if it's me for the latter

"Becoming more and more of a lynch candidate" Aka not the #1 lynch candidate but you're moving up.

You're literally telling me to just change my reads?

And for the remainder of this phase I am in fact tunneling you. Zenith threatened me with some large scale post and proceeded to not exist today, we can deal with him tomorrow.

I hardclaimed VT, there's not much left for me to say about myself today, so I'm going to focus more on who we should want lynched.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Votecount:
Zenith (1)- Plop
red blaster (1)- Yoshl
AA (1)- ymia
YMIA (4)- Zenith, V, DBP, choof
plop (1)- Charu
Xel (1)- rzr

now that is a lot more interesting amiright

[rzr]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

rzr going for AA when he had townread him is fucked, but I think it's a case like this:

“The animals listen first to Napoleon, then to Snowball, and could not make up their minds which was right; indeed, they always found themselves in agreement with the one who was speaking at the moment.”

Oh come on plop reread this
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=1187

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

No lol, I just caught your slip.

I wish I could save you guys the time of digging into my reads list and just read where I just said I don't suspect AA lol

but it seems like you do

can you quote that and ymia's slip for our convenience?

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

but it seems like you do

can you quote that and ymia's slip for our convenience?

sure, reread this like I said to plop http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=1187

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

"Becoming more and more of a lynch candidate" Aka not the #1 lynch candidate but you're moving up.

You're literally telling me to just change my reads?

And for the remainder of this phase I am in fact tunneling you. Zenith threatened me with some large scale post and proceeded to not exist today, we can deal with him tomorrow.

I hardclaimed VT, there's not much left for me to say about myself today, so I'm going to focus more on who we should want lynched.

not telling you to change your reads, I'm telling you to make them better

so if that doesn't involve changing them based on your reassessment of certain people, then build a better case other than "guesswork and conjecture" as you so eloquently put it