TWG CXLI - SlopeFiring at the Olympics (Game Thread)

[T-Force]

Dammit roundbox, nice ninja.

[T-Force]

Also, if we lynch ben and he is indeed one of the masons, and lurker doesn't die, then we know the 2nd wolf. If he does, we drop to 3-2 for the next day..

Risky play.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by T-Force

I'm 99% that there is 1 randomizer for each faction. Which means there's a wolf between AA/rzr. This also makes me realize one thing. I sent my cheesecake to AA during the first night. It then ended up pointing at j-rodd. j-rodd died that night.

Alignment and roles are not aligned, so the distribution of a randomizer to each faction is not a part of the design

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by T-Force

Also, if we lynch ben and he is indeed one of the masons, and lurker doesn't die, then we know the 2nd wolf. If he does, we drop to 3-2 for the next day..

Risky play.

3-2 there actually isn't a problem as long as all town aligned players do not vote until the absolute last hour of EoD (or whenever a player can be there the latest).

We can PoE enough where 3-2 isn't a scary number to deal with. Look at it this way:

Lynch Benguin, flips wolf aligned role (or vanilla), Lurker dies (flips whatever)

Confirmed Town (You or Roundbox) or myself dies, that leaves two confirms in the 3-2. I'm going to just say I'm confirmed at that point because when we lynch benguin and he flips wolf I believe I jump to that status.

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Also what is the statistical chance of rerolling the same role in games? I want to say it's a very low chance to roll Survivor in two games in less than a 10 game span so I'm honestly shocked nobody gave me shit for that claim or even tried to bury me for that original claim.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Alignment and roles are not aligned, so the distribution of a randomizer to each faction is not a part of the design

I think by this, wolves could have something of their own (a doc, cop, sniper, etc).

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Alignment and roles are not aligned, so the distribution of a randomizer to each faction is not a part of the design

True, but that's why I said 99%.
I dunno, it would just seem to be ridiculous for both randomizers to be on the same faction. Then again, there might have been other roles not even used for this.

I'm going to say I'm content with lynching Ben, but I'm still wary of putting a vote on him in case of wolf rush. Unless we can get 5 of people who are cool with potentially throwing this game to the wolves, I'm going to refrain for now.

[_Zenith_]

I'm just going to sit here and wait for the "lmaos, what the fucks, and the votes"

Specifically I'm waiting for benguin to come in here after his pseudo-afk act, start reeling from my claim against him, and have to be forced to vote for me.

I am actually also waiting for lurker to preserve him due to the masonry shit

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Of course we don't know for sure, but why ask this question now? Are you trying to steer suspicion onto Xel this late into the game?

And why name drop benguin?

I'm not trying to steer suspicion onto him but I am suspicious of him

because benguin hasn't done anything this game except claim "I'm lost and I don't know what to do"

[AragakiAyase]

trevor I had no idea that you even attempted to send the cake to me, fwiw I sent in my night action 1 minute after the first day ended

I want to see if benguin says anything before rolling with zenith's claim

what concerns me here is that as a wolf zenith likes to control the lynch and that seems like exactly what he's doing here if he's not actually a watcher (also with his post about a player [me] that he'll get lynched if they don't speak up)

why did you want to lynch me if I didn't want to speak up? Why not lynch benguin regardless if he's confirmed red from your POV?

[AragakiAyase]

I also just realized what rzr's power does and I find it odd that there would be two roles that do the exact same thing in this setup

and trevor mentioning it is strange, how did rzr know he had a cake?

[AragakiAyase]

lurker can you verify that benguin is your OOTC partner?

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

trevor I had no idea that you even attempted to send the cake to me, fwiw I sent in my night action 1 minute after the first day ended

I want to see if benguin says anything before rolling with zenith's claim

what concerns me here is that as a wolf zenith likes to control the lynch and that seems like exactly what he's doing here if he's not actually a watcher (also with his post about a player [me] that he'll get lynched if they don't speak up)

why did you want to lynch me if I didn't want to speak up? Why not lynch benguin regardless if he's confirmed red from your POV?

It wasn't you who I was referring to in terms of speaking up lmao It was truly benguin and I am quite sick of waiting for any response from benguin so I outed my red tracking on him.

Just like Round before who is withdrawing his own reads on my claim now, stop being paranoid about me taking the situation. The only time I did that as a wolf is when I had full control of not only the last phase but the entire game because I set my team up for the win; not just solely me.

Whether or not you want to believe it is up to you, but benguin will flip wolf and his partners are taking advantage of his being afk by having him send kills ever so sporadically. Again like I said, who in the right mind would target an afk player with their ability but myself?

[AragakiAyase]

oh I thought it was me because you posted right after me but w/e

I'm inclined to believe you but like you just said I'm paranoid

[T-Force]

Rzr knowing definitely sends off redflags for me.
You not knowing makes sense as you didn't have it when Day started; j-rodd did.
Riot not knowing is the key here. He had no idea that he got a cake at day start. Unless it's because he was Red Blaster, and thus a cheesecake himself, there should be no reason he didn't know and rzr does.

The only thing I can remotely think of regarding why rzr knows is because he's an egg and used in the making of cake, but that is a stretch even for this game.
I think that he either bluffed, or got notified and is lying about his role.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I also just realized what rzr's power does and I find it odd that there would be two roles that do the exact same thing in this setup

translation: I think his claim is full of shit

[T-Force]

Because his role notifies him of anything he may receive and that wasn't mentioned by him in his claim.

Assuming he wasn't bluffing.

[T-Force]

Oh good, it's not just me.
Thing is, do we go for him or Ben first? Either way, I'm down with either. I'm leaning Ben first though because of the potential to find the third(?) wolf if his partner doesn't flip.

Basing this off of multiple assumptions, but you all knew that.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by T-Force

Oh good, it's not just me.
Thing is, do we go for him or Ben first? Either way, I'm down with either. I'm leaning Ben first though because of the potential to find the third(?) wolf if his partner doesn't flip.

Basing this off of multiple assumptions, but you all knew that.

ben first assuming there's nothing really surprising that we don't know yet

I still think lurker is town but I guess we'll find out if we lynch ben

[AragakiAyase]

here's where I'm at:

lurker: feels pretty town, he's posted more than I've ever seen before and has been giving out reads. he doesn't give a fuck about impressions which is pretty standard but his overall posting seems town and he outed himself which I think a wolf would be less likely to do, although given the mechanics of the mason role I'm not totally sure

t-force: he was slipping a little earlier during his absence but now that he's posting again I've mindmelded with him on several points and he's had good posts so I'm feeling pretty good about him being town now

ben: confirmed wolf?

rzr: bs claim, cheesecake notification, bad reads list, 100% wolf if he did lie about his role

xel: not sure

zenith: watchman

roundbox: also not sure

[roundbox]

how the hell are you still not sure about my alignment