TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

lmfao, i wrote "a typical" i was on a phone and like well
atypical

my bad, throw that part of my reads out then

[AragakiAyase]

I'd like to point out that with this setup town could easily end up with very few players, as few as 4 with a 3 T roll. it made me realize that townreading a lot of people is much more likely to be incorrect with the massive potential for 3rd parties in this setup. I hope my reads become more focused as the day goes on because while we have 2 confirmed (pretty much) we still have almost no idea how many town-aligned players we actually have.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by storn42

Hidden Lynchee
Your role is Towny.
You have no abilities, your lynch is your power.
Win Condition:
You win when all scum are eliminated.
Role Modifiers:
None.
Hated: You have a permanent plus one vote to lynches, meaning you need one less vote for majority and you win ties.
Loved: You have a permanent minus one vote to lynches, meaning you need one more vote to reach majority and you lose ties.
(The Lynchee gets this PM as he doesn't know he's the Lynchee, he thinks he's a town.)

pm straight from the wiki. notice the last part.

as far as the lynchee knows, he's VT.

pretty sure yoshl clarified that the lynchee can be anyone. if the lynchee is VT then he will receive this PM because he doesn't know his identity. If they are some other role/alignment they will receive their normal PM.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk252

AA: I know I argued against doing this earlier but I feel like there’s an outside chance of him being something like a survivor, SK, or CL based on his reactions to other people suspecting him. 675 seems like he’s encouraging other people to be suspicious of him and he also argued against me reading him as town. Seems to me like he’s trying to prevent himself from getting too universally townread.

I'll just comment on your section on me because I have to go to work soon. 675 was not me encouraging other people to be suspicious, it was me being annoyed at my interactions with choof throughout the whole game and I didn't know what to do with it. I didn't want you to townread me (or read me at all) based off of my question about instas, there's plenty of other stuff in the game to read me off of and in my mind that topic gets close to angleshooting territory.

[AragakiAyase]

nawk, your read on jrodd seems to be all over the place. First you say you're not reading him town, then you say probably not the CL, but then you say that you're reading his aggression as town. What's your overall read on him right now/where is he in your lynch pool?

[j-rodd123]

Catching up now but seeing that last post from nighthawk pings me pretty hard, this dude is way different than last game and his reads list lacks conviction

I also am pretty sure freaky is a wolf now

[j-rodd123]

And yes I am aware night voted for freaky they don't have to be both on the same team I just think there's an around ~0 chance they're both town. I'd be down to lynch freaky first and one of the posts that sticks out from freaky as I reread is him setting a lynch order of wolf > 3rd party > 3rd party bla bla whatever he put. This is one of those things I always say as a wolf because it's just so easy to post and makes you appear villagery.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Charu

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you what I've done tonight

This is beast I still have yet to check out P1.3~

[j-rodd123]

Wow just when I thougfht nights reads post was weird I see AA has reached a new low of autistic reads "Jrodd is probably not a wolf but let's lynch him, he could be third party but I'm not gonna give any evidence to support it but instead I'll quote one post that could potentially be fake enthusiasm and pocketing"

Good effort kid

[_Zenith_]

I lol'd at nighthawks read about DBP

I still am leaning him town for the time being

could you guys please let me know if you have hit a dead end and just want to go with the safe lynch on me cause ye I'll just go ahead and self now

[j-rodd123]

freakysnots is NOT TOWN, he's never town here and I think he has a >Rand chance of being a wolf

[j-rodd123]

DBP Made some good posts about zenith that I didn't even consider. Sorry zenith but if this game has the potential to reach an F3 we can't let you live

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

Wow just when I thougfht nights reads post was weird I see AA has reached a new low of autistic reads "Jrodd is probably not a wolf but let's lynch him, he could be third party but I'm not gonna give any evidence to support it but instead I'll quote one post that could potentially be fake enthusiasm and pocketing"

Good effort kid

that's a p normal style read for him, but it's hard to toneread AA because he sounds like a robot


beep boop

boop beep

BEEP BOOP BOOP BOP

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

DBP Made some good posts about zenith that I didn't even consider. Sorry zenith but if this game has the potential to reach an F3 we can't let you live

Nah once I outed and realized that my being hated actually can fuck town over I knew I needed to die some point in the game.

Like if role-modifiers didn't exist you guys would've loved my claiming but tsk tsk they do and it means rip myself

[j-rodd123]

No zenith you keep posting about inconsistency and worrying about that being wolfy in your posts but read his posts and follow the logic there. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised at all if I was the lynchee this game, not suggesting AA is the lyncher because his case is way wolfier and follows terrible logic that there's no way people could agree with that where the lyncher would try and make an aggressive and good case against their target.

Also the really bothersome part is the lack of clearance I'm getting and everyone calling me "weird" and saying they're willing to vote me without interacting with me at all. In a game with both wolves and 3rd parties I'm pretty sure I've already been spewed clear from every faction just based on everyone's willingness to do that

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

wow mashi it feels so formal when you use my full name

It was a reaction test. the jester read was one of if not the first serious read of the game and I wanted to see if people bought it/reacted strongly to it before giving out my reasoning. I also wanted to see if I was mindmelding with anyone on that point (like dbp).

Wait a minute wait a minute you are calling your confidence ploy just to be a reaction test and you wANTED VALIDITY BEFORE VALIDITY WAS EVEN NEEDED AND ALSO WANTED TO CONFORM INTO ANOTHER PLAYER INSTEAD OF BEING INDEPENDENT??????????????????????????????????

Fuck AA I thought you were getting better man

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

Wow just when I thougfht nights reads post was weird I see AA has reached a new low of autistic reads "Jrodd is probably not a wolf but let's lynch him, he could be third party but I'm not gonna give any evidence to support it but instead I'll quote one post that could potentially be fake enthusiasm and pocketing"

Good effort kid

by POE if you're not a wolf then you're 3rd party because the way you've been playing doesn't feel at all like you're town. You've been throwing votes onto people really randomly and without any reasoning whatsoever and I also don't feel like you're putting in that much effort. You're making some reads but they seem pretty weak.

[_Zenith_]

If I am the lynchee this game is ultimately fucked.

[j-rodd123]

Nighthawks reads list is actually pretty good I take back what I say because I wanted to bring up the exact same point about charu.

I was thinking that charu deviating from his meta so hard and not actively shitposting was a ploy he would make as a jester but I didn't even think of the point of him increasing in volume when called out by funny, ehich is something I don't think is in the jester's range, so I'm leaning towards wolf with charu now. But you know, #levels

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Wait a minute wait a minute you are calling your confidence ploy just to be a reaction test and you wANTED VALIDITY BEFORE VALIDITY WAS EVEN NEEDED AND ALSO WANTED TO CONFORM INTO ANOTHER PLAYER INSTEAD OF BEING INDEPENDENT??????????????????????????????????

Fuck AA I thought you were getting better man

lol what no did you even read my post?

I didn't want to give my reasoning away yet because I wanted to see if I was mindmelding with anyone first off. I also didn't want anyone backpacking onto my argument right away, I saw no reason to give out more information than necessary at the time. by leaving out my reasoning behind it at first there's the potential to see some interesting reactions like "wtf why would you think that" or "that makes no sense, explain please", etc. if I put my reasoning in people can just agree/disagree right away and the reaction doesn't give much information at that point