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Old 11-23-2014, 06:52 PM   #1301
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I'm home!!!

And while on the way, I realised something obvious about a why a rush didn't occur that I just verified. The Mafia only win when they eliminate all the Wolves and are a majority to the Humans. In fact, here's the quote "You win when the Werewolves are dead and the Mafia obtain a majority over the town, or nothing can prevent this from occurring."

Considering T-Force's recent history with going over Role PMs, I would be surprised if he hadn't realised this.

Currently, the game is at 7 Players. Given how everyone's behaved thus far and that XelNya is a normal Wolf (and given his indifference, I'm willing to believe in that), I think it's safe to conjecture that there are 2 Mafia and 1 Traitor. Based on that, the Mafia:Non-Mafia ratio becomes 2:5. Let's say that the Mafia and Traitor choose to rush and just so happen to hit a Human instead of a Wolf. The ratio becomes 2:4. During the Night Phase, if they fail to eliminate the Wolf or if the Wolf eliminates one of them or the Traitor, the Mafia don't win.

Except that when you make a rush, it sort of becomes obvious that you're Mafia. So if they rush and miss the Wolf, they lose. Conversely, if they did lynch a Wolf, they would win, however.
And I think it's important to note that T-Force seemed rather gong-ho about voting XelNya soon after the Phase began, also. Even though he couldn't rush, he still wanted XelNya lynched utmost. And I think the spontaneity of the vote reflects that want. Much like the premature vote made by TWG Villager last game, which I mentioned regarding T-Force's recent vote on me.

And we still need to consider the logic of the Traitor/Mafia not being online simultaneously, the Traitor being unsure of when to join the rush, and the Mafia not even being aware of who the Traitor is. T-Force's logic using the lack of a rush is inherently flawed and is exactly the type of biased reasoning that led him to suspecting Plop on Day 1.
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Old 11-23-2014, 06:59 PM   #1302
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Considering T-Force's recent history with going over Role PMs, I would be surprised if he hadn't realised this.

Mafia not even being aware of who the Traitor is.
This is correct... I was under the assumption that Mafia knew their Traitor.

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Keep in mind I was very sure of him being Mafia and this was before his claim.
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:00 PM   #1303
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If this is true I'd rather vote T-Force.
One last thing, why the change of heart, Red?
You voted for Charles at the beginning of phase leaving me alone.
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:02 PM   #1304
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Keep in mind I was very sure of him being Mafia and this was before his claim.
Also, he was on the top of everyone's suspicions list as well.
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:06 PM   #1305
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red blaster and i are secretly huge porn lovers pls dont come in the way of our newfound love, he is the hiotan to my ero book inspector lady
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:08 PM   #1306
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hey is the phase seriously ending tonight
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The difference is that you voted for him and everyone else didn't. You removed your vote only after I told everyone not to continue voting at the risk of rush.
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funnygurl the phase ends in about 2 hours and 22 minutes so yes
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One last thing, why the change of heart, Red?
You voted for Charles at the beginning of phase leaving me alone.
You've become more scummy, while Charles has been reading more human to me and others, lately. Ultimately the chances are, you're both not town. From my point of view, the only way you could be town is if psychoangel's claim is false, but you seem pretty sure it isn't.

I know I'm town, I know Jrodd's town and I know Xel's wolf, but that's all I know for certain. That leaves one free slot for the remaining town assuming psycho's claim isn't legit.


Me: Town
Jrodd: Town
Xel: Wolf
T-Force: ???
Charles: ???
Funny: ???
Psycho: ???
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Me: Town
Jrodd: Town
Xel: Wolf
T-Force: ???
Charles: ???
Funny: ???
Psycho: ???
Personal guess:

Red: Guardian
J-rodd: Doctor
Xel: Wolf
T-Force: Vanilla Town
Charles: Mafia
Funny: Mafia
Psycho: Seer/Traitor


Take from this what you will, but almost everyone may have the same thing aside from Charles and Funny who will probably cycle me into the Mafia spot.

Also, remember: Town roles can also roll Traitor.
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:28 PM   #1313
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You mean aside from the fact my PM says so? I really don't know how to answer. There's no real way for me to prove it without cheating, haha.
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ok well give me the % you want to vote charles and the % you want to vote tforce
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Ty T-Force
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my gut is telling me vote t-force but the fact ive been kept alive so long tells me to vote charles
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everyone just lurking waiting for someone to make the wrong vote is pretty lol
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