TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

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TWG Greninja - Likely oracle.
TWG Little Mac - Advocated for a Pit lynch and I remember seeing him vote for Yoshi somewhere, but I can't find it again!!! Responded to a bunch of Charizard's posts a few hours before the phase update that Charizard was wolfed.
TWG Mega Man - Way human. Has been giving tons of input and was frenetic on lynching Bowser in early game.
TWG Pit - He's been acting oddly in the suspicions he's pursued in my opinion (such as his spontaneous omgus-esque suspicion on Zelda and how easily he was convinced about being inclined by Greninja's suspicion of me). That said, he's been hard set on Yoshi and I can't see him partners with him.
TWG Villager - Still liking him for his spontaneity and the apparent sincerity in his posts.
TWG Yoshi - If he's a wolf, I think the only possible partner is Dedede.
TWG King Dedede - It's hard for me to suspect him given just how contributive and towny his posts have been, but he may just be a really good wolf. I was suspicious of Pacman before his replacement given how he reacted to Zelda's joke about being partners and his omgus vote on me for 'trying to bandwagon.' Particularly suspicious due to the following Fox quote:

Originally Posted by TWG Fox

And who are they to point out to everyone what is 'obviously sarcastic' or 'obviously a joke'? There was a reason in the first place people were confused about certain posts, because they were fishy. People posting like that feel to me like they are covering for a player that can't stop from making fishy posts. Maybe it's just me though. I never did understand Villager's player.
Off now, be back soon.

Which is likely in reference to the Pacman incident.
Likewise, Dedede has been defending Yoshi a bit.

Relevant Quotes:

Little Mac:

Originally Posted by TWG Little Mac

While I do have a green lean on some of those who are on the meta knight train, I'm not too sure about Meta Knight himself and therefore still feel more comfortable placing my vote on Pit.

I'm still reviewing some of the previous phases, as inactive as they were, to try to find anything else that sticks out to me.

[quote=TWG Little Mac;4225372]So this post occurred before the Charizard flip. I can see Pit's motivation clearly comes from the fact that Zelda was green, so therefore he can pick up where Zelda left off.

Then the day after, Yoshi appears to parrot the idea.



So Yoshi flies in as usual, apologizes for being inactive, joins the most favorable train, and then logs off after dropping an unoriginal idea.

And then there's these next set of posts:

Originally Posted by TWG Little Mac

I did not give you a specific read that I found suspicious (but if you recall, I was responding openly with you) because I was pointing out that what I was uncomfortable with was the manner in which he approached reads. I wasn't questioning who he was throwing around as green or red, but just how effortlessly and confidently he was doing it. Unless you wanted me to just start quoting (almost) all of his posts, then that would be the best I could do.

I certainly agree with you that I am not an active poster (although I've been consistent). However, this doesn't make me inactive overall and I can assure everyone here that I have kept up will all events in this thread, and have even been here as events were unfolding, so I have a very strong understanding of player relationships that someone deemed "inactive" just wouldn't possess.

Also, up until the last phase, I will throw it out there that no one has REALLY been targeting me hard, so the fact you mention I only respond to "being targeted" is a little harsh. I've never been under serious fire by anyone with the exception of just that last phase. I contribute when I feel it's necessary, but otherwise keep up with the reading for the thread.

I tried to (but poorly articulated with typos) my reasoning for preferring a Bowser LYNCH over a Bowser gunshot, and I still feel my opinion wasn't out of line in a way that throws up a red flag. Just because I had the least favorable opinion, doesn't markedly make me red in that case. What I outlined was this:
1. At that time, I was the MOST sure of Bowser being red. Therefore, we have all the support of a lynch (a means of killing that is more erratic), and therefore should be utilized.
2. Pikachu was also VERY suspicious, but would be better off shot with a gun since at that time, we were all just about ready for Bowser.
The fact that it was between two reds in the end should really show that either choice isn't substantially better than the other. I just wanted to focus the randomness of a lynch on a more sure target. Call it a nitpicky choice, if anything else.



I honestly don't see the strength in this anymore. It doesn't always benefit us to just "pair" off individuals as a guaranteed red/green pair. If anything, these scenarios may illustrate green/green going hard at each other. A scenario in which inactive players can use to stay behind the scenes. Of course I'll give you Kirby/Fox, but that was driven because Kirby is the seer. Zelda/Pit, Me/Pit, Pit/Zelda may very well all just be green pairs who needlessly leaned into one another. (Pit just mentioned, after all, that he went hard for Zelda simply to reciprocate the action/aggravation). It could very well be the case that's true.



I feel I already went over this a bit in detail when I reasoned out my choice of a lynch over a gun.



As far as the "soft-defending" (primarily your quotes are relating to Pikachu) I think my explanation about Pikachu's "fit" into the other inactives explains my reasoning here. All the players at one point were so distracted by just the "pika pi's" that it was enough to warrant attention. Therefore, I judged that Pikachu just couldn't be lumped in with the other inactives (and there was a lynch that almost was driven to completion for Pikachu to prove my point).



Looking back, did you have any other reasons that drove you to go after Zelda, besides just being pursued by her relentlessly?

Responded to Charizard's posts. Charizard died a few hours later. Doubtful that he's a wolf, as it seems pointless to make counterarguments to someone planned to be wolfed.



Order of Suspicion:
1. Yoshi
2. Dedede
3. Pit
4. Villager
5. Little Mac
6. Megaman
7. Greninja


I've been searching through the thread for like 2 hours now, so I'm going to take a break to refresh my head and look at things again at end of phase.