TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Link

Speaking as a third person, I found the way you posted during the 10 pages of arguing with Ike to be offensive and radical. I don't think you made a good case for Bowser being a wolf, frankly. In fact, I think that reading your posts actually compelled me to think Bowser wasn't a wolf based on just how extreme you were being.

We weren't talking about my case against Bowser at all and it's funny that you bring this up now.

Originally Posted by TWG Link

Speaking as a third person, I found the way you posted during the 10 pages of arguing with Ike to be offensive and radical.

Care to back this position up? Can you quote a couple examples of me being offensive? Because, barring the single exception where I said Bowser probably didn't do well in drama class, I don't think I've crossed the line once this game.

[TWG Pit]

oh hey choof is viewing the thread

stepmania

[TWG Mega Man]

Oh I guess I did bring my case against Bowser up because it was related to the timing of when he'd just talk about things that were objectively not conducive to scumhunting.

I'd still like to hear examples of me being offensive, though. There's a difference between being insulting and refusing to accept wool being pulled over your eyes.

[TWG Mega Man]

Ike, that invitation is extended to you as well.

[TWG King Dedede]

CAN WE GET A SECOND WAGON ON META KNIGHT? MK IS BASICALLY ANOTHER PIKACHU, YET THEY HAVEN'T RACKED UP ANY VOTES ALL GAME. caps

[TWG Link]

Starting from page 66 to like 71, practically every post you made was sarcastic in some way. That alone wouldn't be offensive, but I think you took it too far sometimes in what you were implicitly saying.

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Because if you were actually a Cop and spent two seconds thinking about it, it'd be obvious that you would get roleblocked if you claimed.

But you're a wolf, so you didn't.

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Are you seriously still pretending like any red roleblocker in their right minds would choose to block a Gunsmith over a Seer? Give me a fucking break.

Way to try to play down your fuck ups as "semantics", by the way. The difference between "green" and "town" is immense and no actual Cop would have misspoke like that.

Your bullshit curtain is burning.

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Cool opinion, bro! I like how you sat on it until two centuries after the claim itself to voice it.

You never did great in drama class, did you?

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Aww, did I hit a nerve?



No this is gold, come back! You never even explained why you were so sure Peach's claim isn't legit!

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

This is a really fucking stupid question. I have already explicitly stated my stance on Peach:

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Ike spouts a pretty nice steaming pile about what we could do about leaving Bowser alive, trying to scare us into thinking OMG WHAT IF BOWSER REALLY IS THE COP?

I invite you to consider: what if Mega Man is right about Bowser?

Because this here's what I think D3 could be like:

- Medic guards Peach. Our Gunsmith stays alive.
- Peach gives me a gun, and I use it to shoot Bowser in his wolf face.
- Bowser cardflips red.
- The real Cop can now focus on the other glaring reds who were present in the insane vote swing at the end of D2.
- Game becomes a breeze for humanity.

Wow, that sounds pretty good!

BUT NAHHHHHHH, IKE'S PLAN IS CLEARLY BETTER. LET'S LEAVE BOWSER ALIVE SO HE CAN GIVE US GOOFY FAKE SEERING RESULTS. THAT'LL RESULT IN WAY MORE INFORMATION FLOW.

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Good point, Ike! My plan sounds really good on paper like that, but what if I'm wrong?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Well, if we follow my plan, and this is somehow a universe where Bowser is a Cop who makes the posts he has been, this is what it looks like:

- The Cop dies, but the Gunsmith stays alive.
- I am the D3 instalynch, flip green, and look like an idiot.
- The Medic continues guarding the Gunsmith and maybe if we kill the Wolf Roleblocker we'll get some vigis later.
- Humans can stop focussing on Mega Man and Bowser, who is a human in this universe for some reason, and continue to have a solid shot at winning the game.

Oh wow that doesn't sound too bad either, huh?

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Did you guys here that? I get to look like an idiot in that universe! Are you going to pass this up?

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

So let me get this straight: You think it's better for our Gunsmith to die and have an indefinitely roleblocked Cop, even though you agree that you think he's probably red?

Oh right, you're a wolf too, I don't really care what you think.

Let's hear some more people's thoughts.

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Yeah, fuck our other confirmed blue, let's sacrifice a free vigi every day so we can our Cop who has already claimed to the thread and will never get to use his ability until we kill the roleblocker!

Great plan dipshit.

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

And that goes for you too. Stop thickening the thread with your nonsense.

[TWG Mega Man]

What I'm implicitly saying is that I know he's a wolf and I'm not putting up with it.

But that was a trick question and you answered wrong.

Ike, what about you?

[TWG Mega Man]

This should be a no-brainer if you're not a red.

[TWG Link]

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

I'd still like to hear examples of me being offensive, though. There's a difference between being insulting and refusing to accept wool being pulled over your eyes.

They aren't mutually exclusive, however. And I wouldn't say it was conspicuously apparent that Bowser had false claimed either. When weighing the options of losing a seer or losing a wolf when lynching a particular player, most people would be rather cautious and not make an absolute judgement immediately after the day has ended.

[TWG Mega Man]

Bzzt!

I'm just going to get to the point here, Ike's not even going to make the mistake of viewing on his main anymore since I called him out so there's no point in keeping this little game going.

As I asked what else I've said that is offensive, I knew the answer. As I said I never explicitly stated that I never called what he had to say pointless, I knew he should be dying to point out that I really did.

There was one specific time I phrased a point to be provocative. It's this.

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Wow, for a guy who's made almost 20% of the posts in the thread, Ike sure doesn't have anything worth a damn to say ever!

But I guess someone has to fluff out the thread to make it annoying to read for the humans and cover arguments against Bowser, right?

"Nothing you say is worth a damn" is quite insulting. But the point in that frame - that it is suspicious for someone who is the most active to also be among the least useful in terms of scumhunting, and that most of his posts are fluffing out points against Bowser - is very real!

I knew this as I did it. I did it because I wanted to see how he responded. If he was red, I wanted to induce fear and apathy to the game. If I was wrong about him, I wanted to get him fired up! I wanted to get him eager to be involved in finding a red!

If he was human, Ike should have been eager to point out that I was completely not right about never having called what he had to say pointless.

But he didn't, because then he'd have to call attention to the legitimate point that I'm making and address it.

Ever since Bowser cardflipped, Ike's copious activity has completely dried up, and I know it's not a coincidence. He knows he's just as far gone as his Cop buddy.

[TWG Link]

That crazy logic process is why people didn't believe you about Bowser.

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

As I said I never explicitly stated that I never called what he had to say pointless, I knew he should be dying to point out that I really did.

Oh god, words. You know what I mean.

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

At no point did I call all of your posts in this thread irrelevant junk.

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Wow, for a guy who's made almost 20% of the posts in the thread, Ike sure doesn't have anything worth a damn to say ever!

You think it's "crazy logic" that a human wouldn't immediately point out, "But you did call all of my posts irrelevant junk!"

Oh Link, you so crazy.

[TWG Mega Man]

Hey Link, you've been sure of Ike's humanity this whole game.

Why? What posts specifically lead you to be so certain that he's not a wolf?

[TWG Kirby]

I have to head to bed early tonight, but I really don't have much reason to switch off pikachu. There's some implication because of the Fox stuff and the Bowser false claim. My vote is staying there.

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Link

That crazy logic process is why people didn't believe you about Bowser.

And one more thing: Town did believe me about Bowser. All of my town reads agreed with my arguments as I made them.

The only difference of opinion amongst townies was that I wanted to lynch him immediately, and other people wanted to wait.

But hey, I don't blame you for defending Ike. Swordbros, right? Awaiting your reasoning for why he looks so green to you. I'm going to get to work on why he looks so red to me.

[TWG Link]

If Town believed you about Bowser, we would have lynched Bowser last phase instead of shooting him this phase.

I'm studying for my last midterm right now, so I don't want to spend too much time off of studying. I'll make a few short points on why I believe Ike is town and can substantiate tomorrow evening if you would like more corroboration.

- He's been just generally contributive and active, which isn't anything definite, but it helps.
- He misinterpreted the number of wolves in the game and teased Peach about it when she stated there were 5 remaining. It's a roundabout way to fake ignorance and although it's certainly not substantial, it's a point in his favor.
- The Shulk wolfing is definitely left field for him.
- After the wolfing he posted that he checked to verify whether it was a possibility for a vigi to be in the game. Would have to be an elaborate hoax to decide to wolf an inactive, convince one's partners, and even come up with the plan to make such a dumbtell.
- He supported a Bowser lynch before Bowser false claimed seer.
- He desperately hoped to have votes switched off of you after you made that one post.
- Likewise, he expressed concern regarding the close lynch between Fox and Kirby that seemed genuine for a human, in my opinion.

[TWG Link]

And because I know you'll bring up the Bowser point, I'll be explicit about it; we decided to wait to lynch Bowser because we didn't believe you. When Fox flipped wolf and Kirby claimed seer is when we agreed that Bowser was a wolf.

To be frank, even, I think your suspicion of Bowser was a fluke anyway. Had you been lynched and everything else gone as it did, we would have likely have shot/lynched him anyway.

[TWG Ike]

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

And there you are on your main again.

Hahahaha.

I think you're mistaking me for someone else b/c I haven't signed into my main at all today.
OBVIOUSLY THIS DOESN'T MATTER I COULD BE LYING WOAH!!@#!@#!@#

but yeah you think I'm someone that isn't me

[TWG Ike]

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

Ike, that invitation is extended to you as well.

never said you were I'm not going to even try and front this point b/c I've said things probably 1000x times worse