TWG CXX: Villains United

[TWG Yzma]

Oh right.
My point still stands: from our perspective, that reason is useless for reasoning. I got the vibe that you were trying to support him.

[TWG Gantu]

Gaston as villain is all the more reason for a lynch on Auto now. Why we didn't use the gun there I will never know.

Also, Sid, jesus, what part of "Abandon all talk of who real players are" didn't you get? That could be a modkill just for your post.

[TWG Maleficent]

Originally Posted by Xiz

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Originally Posted by TWG The Queen

i mean after hades flips hero why would we kill gaston next

this reasoning is suddenly a lot more compelling to me, dunno why
i don't think the heroes would've risked forming a wagon about a quarter of the way into d2 (and in practice even less than that due to sleep schedules and whatnot)
i think it's fairly possible that one of the two people who voted gaston is also a hero, and since yzma just jumped wagons i'm really fuckin suspicious

[Xiz]

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[TWG Gantu]

Be cool if we could get a t-minus to end of phase in the votecount posts just to make sure we're all clear.

[TWG Yzma]

That reasoning just seems like if your co-worker is in arrested for murder and your testimony is "he would never do such a thing!!!!" but you can't provide any concrete evidence why he wouldn't/couldn't do it.

But I suppose it could be admissible for a strictly self-defense position, in the game's context: it would be equivalent to a gut reaction. But that's still pretty weak.

[TWG Auto]

I thought you all knew who I was by now, I mean who else plays like I do

Anyway, Gaston was villain. That was unfortunate, but given Hades' action towards him D2 I can't say I didn't expect it. Would have preferred a Jafar kill (look back to end of D1 for reasons) but saying so would have had the opposite effect. Maybe I should have said I wanted a Gaston kill so you guys would have gone for Jafar...

And people, why are you getting on Sid? Just because he committed the unspeakably terrible crime of being opposed to killing me off?

[TWG Maleficent]

should be noted that even though i said i don't think the heroes would start an early wagon, i also think everyone is a total retard

[TWG Auto]

Also, Yzma. Mainly self-pres, but tbh I think she's the best lynch today anyway

[TWG Sid Phillips]

Originally Posted by TWG Yzma

Oh right.
My point still stands: from our perspective, that reason is useless for reasoning. I got the vibe that you were trying to support him.

I get that the reasoning is next to useless, but I still wanted to throw that out there since Auto's pretty close to the lynch right now.

Originally Posted by TWG Gantu

Also, Sid, jesus, what part of "Abandon all talk of who real players are" didn't you get? That could be a modkill just for your post.

I'm not the only one who was referring to players in this way lol

[TWG Yzma]

If I remember correctly, the Gaston "wagon" wasn't a wagon and just a bunch of pressure votes to get him talking

[TWG Gantu]

"Hey, you know that strategy we're not allowed to use? If we COULD use it, you'd totally not kill Auto"

Now I want to lynch Auto even harder because if he flips Hero, we've got another one and the game's pretty much won.

So who exactly are you suggesting as an alternative right now? We've all got people we think are leaning Hero, but I really think the actions preceding the Hades Hero flip are really damning on Auto, and I think that's an avenue worth going down before going back to arguing over leans and gut feels and meta theory.

[TWG The Queen]

has anyone said why theyre voting yzma

[TWG Gantu]

(The 'got Another one' being Sid because Sid pushing for outside info we can't actually use as proof of a villain lean really bothers me)

It feels like what you're saying is "There's a player who tends to play really wolfy/poorly when they are town, so it would totally explain why they are playing wolfy/poorly!"

Either they're a hero, or they are playing in a way that makes some people think they are a hero, and in either case, they're not at all useful to the villain team.

[TWG Yzma]

I'm going to go on the record to say (Auto + Darla + Sid) configuration is pretty likely.
Fourth wolf I would say is Charles because of his list entirely excluding the previous three, that's a weak guess though.

Maleficent, I want either Auto or Darla to die tonight, I think Auto is more likely and gives us more information anyway.

[TWG Sid Phillips]

Gantu, have you read the last few posts I've written? This wasn't meant to be strong evidence. I just wanted to say why I was against voting for Auto. It isn't that hard.

[TWG Yzma]

Of course my mind might change based on tonight's lynch results, this is my current lean

[TWG Gantu]

Originally Posted by TWG Sid Phillips

Gantu, have you read the last few posts I've written? This wasn't meant to be strong evidence. I just wanted to say why I was against voting for Auto. It isn't that hard.

I've read them, and I get why you're distancing from the statements. Because of Auto flips hero and you were the last one, while they were losing the vote, while you hadn't voted at all yet, to try and push us away from him, you'd be next.

[TWG Syndrome]

Originally Posted by TWG The Queen

has anyone said why theyre voting yzma

I don't believe there has been an actual reason stated for why yzma should die. Which is why I think there's a hero pair with Darla and Auto, because there should be no reason why a player wouldn't want to pick between the two of those at this point, yet there's people going for yzma for apparently no reason.

[TWG Sid Phillips]

Originally Posted by TWG Gantu

I've read them, and I get why you're distancing from the statements. Because of Auto flips hero and you were the last one, while they were losing the vote, while you hadn't voted at all yet, to try and push us away from him, you'd be next.

... you know TWG isn't this easy, right?