FFR Accuracy?

[RawFishIsDelicious]

Hi there guys,
well...I have a problem that really keeps bothering me:

First of all, English is not my mother's tongue, so it's not going to be perfect, but I'm pretty sure you can understand what I want to say.


So,

I'm playing Stepmania for quite a long time now, and I got pretty...decent at it. A while ago I thought it might be fun to give FFR a try, and so I did. But I'm not nearly as good in FFR as I am in Stepmania recording to my accuracy...

No matter how hard I try to hit the arrows at the perfect time, I always get more "goods" and "perfects" than "amazings".

I tried FFR standalone, but I still have the same problems...

It's impossible for me to AAA a song in FFR because of that, and it's really bothering me.



So, is there anything I have to change in the options like calibration or something like that, or is it just a problem you have when you are not used to the timing of FFR?

[awein999]

The default perfect timing is much earlier than in stepmania. it's very likely you are getting a lot of late goods. The timing in ffr from ascending to descending accuracy is "good, good, perfect, amazing, perfect, good, average". There is an option called "offset" that you can change to move the timing so that the amazing frame is in the middle of the arrow receptors.

This thread has lots of general helpful information for newbies: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...=121138&page=5

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by RawFishIsDelicious

Hi there guys,
well...I have a problem that really keeps bothering me:

First of all, English is not my mother's tongue, so it's not going to be perfect, but I'm pretty sure you can understand what I want to say.


So,

I'm playing Stepmania for quite a long time now, and I got pretty...decent at it. A while ago I thought it might be fun to give FFR a try, and so I did. But I'm not nearly as good in FFR as I am in Stepmania recording to my accuracy...

No matter how hard I try to hit the arrows at the perfect time, I always get more "goods" and "perfects" than "amazings".

I tried FFR standalone, but I still have the same problems...

It's impossible for me to AAA a song in FFR because of that, and it's really bothering me.



So, is there anything I have to change in the options like calibration or something like that, or is it just a problem you have when you are not used to the timing of FFR?

You don't need to hit all amazings to get a perfect score. All perfects is sufficient. Amazing is just when you hit on the EXACT frame an arrow is on, similar to marvelous timing.

Even the best players of this game call themselves charmed if they get a ten to one amazing to perfect ratio on a given playthrough. All amazing only ever happens with very simple songs.

[ffr212]

Originally Posted by RawFishIsDelicious

Hi there guys,
well...I have a problem that really keeps bothering me:

First of all, English is not my mother's tongue, so it's not going to be perfect, but I'm pretty sure you can understand what I want to say.


So,

I'm playing Stepmania for quite a long time now, and I got pretty...decent at it. A while ago I thought it might be fun to give FFR a try, and so I did. But I'm not nearly as good in FFR as I am in Stepmania recording to my accuracy...

No matter how hard I try to hit the arrows at the perfect time, I always get more "goods" and "perfects" than "amazings".

I tried FFR standalone, but I still have the same problems...

It's impossible for me to AAA a song in FFR because of that, and it's really bothering me.



So, is there anything I have to change in the options like calibration or something like that, or is it just a problem you have when you are not used to the timing of FFR?

I love this post.


I love you.


I'm going to spend a lot of time watching this thread to see if the problem is fixed.


In the meantime good luck trying to fix it, I've been trying for years.

[arcnmx]

My usual repost as always...

Originally Posted by arcnmx

Hide judge popups in settings, play through a song you're confident you can play well. On the results screen right click on the "Speed:" line under your score. The first number it gives (not the +/- one) is what you should use as judge offset. Keep checking it after a few songs and see how stable it is. Using a high framerate makes this process more accurate.

tl;dr if you're getting more perfects than amazings it's your judge offset setting, change it.

[igotrhythm]

So let me get this straight:

The judge offset is the number of seconds you shift the timing windows, and the significance of right-clicking after a song is so you see the average amount of time you were off by on that playthrough?

If so, if I have a judge offset of +0.25 and I get a readout of ~+0.2 over a few plays, should I change the offset to 0.45? (Basically, I wanna see if the number there is something you should add to the offset you're using to get better accuracy.)

[justin_ator]

If I'm not mistaken the suggestion is a set amount based on your accuracy of a playthrough, not an addition or subtraction from your current setting

[arcnmx]

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

So let me get this straight:

The judge offset is the number of seconds you shift the timing windows, and the significance of right-clicking after a song is so you see the average amount of time you were off by on that playthrough?

Correct. It is essentially a video sync setting, while global offset is audio sync.

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

If so, if I have a judge offset of +0.25 and I get a readout of ~+0.2 over a few plays, should I change the offset to 0.45? (Basically, I wanna see if the number there is something you should add to the offset you're using to get better accuracy.)

Not quite, because it's adjusted to show you the absolute offset rather than something relative to your current setting. Just makes it easier to use / copy down. So in that case you'd reduce your offset to 0.2ish.