TWG CI: Fiction's Birthday Party

[Crazyjayde]

@V I felt that putting my inner paranoia at the hands of others was a way to simulate a situation where the wolves may have trouble working around and even might try to reach out for what I say. That first emotional burst is something I exploited to be sure wolves wouldn't kill me this night. And the next response to dance is me exaggerating what I think and trying to provoking reactions. I want people to call me out on my bullshit, and I wanted to see how they'd do it. Both were faked to an extent to achieve reactions, but came from former frivolous thoughts. Take it how you want it.

[mellonxcollie]

;_; I am not a wolf. Svaz was right, I trust Fiction and his reasoning seemed sound so that was why I voted for Manti. I was behind the thread at the time and using what info I had to go off of Manti seemed like the most plausible wolf.

I am a bit confused as to why everyone is jumping on TPS. If it is due to his inactivity that does make sense, but drawing from my own experiences and my experiences with last game's mass-inactivity I'm hesitant to jump on him just because of this. In my mind it seems plausible but I think I would rather focus on what is being said in the thread, rather than guessing about TPS's whereabouts outside of the thread. Maybe next phase I will feel differently but right now I think there are better candidates. If there is other reasoning behind this could someone please fill me in?

Right now I am thinking krauthammer as a definite wolf. I don't even know how to explain it but all of his posts just give me an icky feeling. Crazyjayde also seems very wolf-like but I can't tell if that is just because s/he is living up to her/his name and acting crazy. I just don't really follow their logic at all and their posts seem very rambly, perhaps as a way to fluff up nothing and distract people.

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

;_; I am not a wolf. Svaz was right, I trust Fiction and his reasoning seemed sound so that was why I voted for Manti. I was behind the thread at the time and using what info I had to go off of Manti seemed like the most plausible wolf.

I am a bit confused as to why everyone is jumping on TPS. If it is due to his inactivity that does make sense, but drawing from my own experiences and my experiences with last game's mass-inactivity I'm hesitant to jump on him just because of this. In my mind it seems plausible but I think I would rather focus on what is being said in the thread, rather than guessing about TPS's whereabouts outside of the thread. Maybe next phase I will feel differently but right now I think there are better candidates. If there is other reasoning behind this could someone please fill me in?

Right now I am thinking krauthammer as a definite wolf. I don't even know how to explain it but all of his posts just give me an icky feeling. Crazyjayde also seems very wolf-like but I can't tell if that is just because s/he is living up to her/his name and acting crazy. I just don't really follow their logic at all and their posts seem very rambly, perhaps as a way to fluff up nothing and distract people.

I like this post. jayde is a weird one, not leaning wolf for sure, but def keeping my eye on him. You said manticore seemed like the most plausible wolf, do you still think this? not much has changed in terms of what he has done, would you lynch him today?

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

wow ur solution is just as bad as what we had the other times, plz don't do this

not sure if you misinterpreted or if I worded it poorly. just saying an actual lynch should go through, no more 3 vote lynches after several last minute switches. doesn't need to be on the first wagon but an insta or something close gives the town more influence over the result.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

I like this post. jayde is a weird one, not leaning wolf for sure, but def keeping my eye on him. You said manticore seemed like the most plausible wolf, do you still think this? not much has changed in terms of what he has done, would you lynch him today?

I'm really not sure anymore. I still think he leans to the wolf side for sure, but krauthammer jumps out more to me now. If everyone else decided Manti I would probably still be on board, though.

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by Crazyjayde

Both were faked to an extent to achieve reactions, but came from former frivolous thoughts.

This is bad. Don't do it.

[j-rodd123]

oh ok my bad, thought you were saying everyone votes the same person which doesn't really give much info

[j-rodd123]

if we want to lynch a definite wolf we pick kraut, but that's no fun we can do that tomorrow, why not be a little risky guys?

[dAnceguy117]

no thanks I literally couldn't sleep after the d2 lynch

[Vendetta21]

...............why would we take risks when we are down our two strongest roles?

[dAnceguy117]

PIZZA GUY please show us the way

[j-rodd123]

because the risk leads to a greater reward !!!

[mellonxcollie]

I feel you. I am also the type of person who likes to take risks and shake things up just for the hell of it. But at this point, it really doesn't seem like a good idea.

[j-rodd123]

wolves want to lynch Krauthammer right now, who is also a wolf, my conspiracy theory is coming to light

[Tps222]

I feel like I add'd a class mid semester and the final is tomorrow and I have 800 posts to catch up on.

V, this is another game where you're mistaking my selfishly lazy human play with being a wolf.

I did mean to say crazyjade instead of charu in that earlier post you called me out on. I voted them because of the post from which I quoted. I don't know CrayJay that well but it read as a signature wolf play, dancing around topics with a lot of words and not much meaning. Some posts were outright nonsense (as pointed out by V).

It seems Kraut and Manti are the top suspects for the day. Is it more of a meta-analysis on manti? Things shifted very quickly once I hopped off of manti onto fiction, and i'm not sure if that's reflective of manti's role or not. I don't know so much about Kraut at the moment, other than him taking me head-on as soon as I came in (of which I deserved).

I'll go back and read some of the vote posts.

[dAnceguy117]

no vote switches thus far because everyone is a stubborn asshole.

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Tps222 (3) - Charu, James May, j-rodd123
Krauthammer (3) - Vendetta21, dAnceuy117, mellonxcollie
DarkManticoreX2 (2) - Krauthammer, Crazyjade
Crazyjade (1) - Tps222

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[dAnceguy117]

(instalynch is at 7 votes)

[j-rodd123]

I didn't actually vote yet

[dAnceguy117]

oops

[Krauthammer]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

[u]
Entrance:
mechanic talk, honestly idk why I gave him a human lean initially, this is probably the easiest entrance a wolf can make.

You say that as if I never have done it before!

By example: Last game:

Now, only one thing: my personal advice is that the one-shot vigi is used as early as possible. At least to be able to use it, in case the one who has the power gets killed early. Having the power doesn't exactly clear anybody, as anybody can say "oh hey I kill/killed that player".

Besides, chances are that the Seer won't be hit, specially if used early. It would have to be very bad luck for it to happen!

And two before that:

cedolad, dAnceguy, I think there is one tiny, tiny, tiny flaw in your plans.

It doesn't do much to stop the Arsonists.

After all, one of the ways they have to win is to burn every building there is. There is almost no chance for them to win only using this way, but that doesn't mean they can't focus on setting fire to the houses that are empty, that way they staying safe...

...the only progress the townsfolk would have is that they seer one person Green. Which isn't bad, I guess.

It is true that with all these plans, the amount of deaths that happen will be lower, but is that very good? A bigger suspect list may be a disadvantage in the future. The Arsonists could hide better, even with the specials coming out.

Aaaand the one directly before that:

Seeing how there wasn't an Innocent Child, this could mean that there is a good chance there are Masons on the game. Yes, the probability of there being zero is bigger, but it doesn't hurt to make some sort of plan for the Masons, if any. Masons, be sure to be active between yourselves. You two/three have a great voting influence. So it is important for you Masons to pay attention.

Also, one shot roles. Be very, very careful when you use roles. Not too late, so you don't get killed and you don't use them, but also don't use them if you aren't sure of what you're doing. Wasting powers isn't something one can afford.

Aaaaaand...yes, looking at the C9 configuration, there is 50% of there being a Serial Killer. Just a general reminder.

As you can see, I normally open my posts with that type of mechanic posts, whether it is criticizing something, or giving my own input or plans. There are a lot more, but they're on other forums.

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

Post 530-this post looks set up to me. Idk exactly why but I feel like tps said something like hey go comment on my entrance.

So, from what I understand, you think that TPS and I went and discussed and came with a "hey you post something suspicious, I'll call you out for it".

What would the objective of it be? To make one of us look human while the other looks wolfy? Why? Was I looking in need of looking human, or was TPS about to get lynched and tried to save a partner?

There is no logical reason to do what you think happened.

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

Post 607-votes manti, this one is jefioewoijweoij because this either is really good for manti or really bad for manti. Thing it looks bad for them both, he moves away from manti and goes to fiction/TPS showing little progression on either besides "reading the thread"

-->Opinion on manti didn't change, not a lynch target anymore. smelly belly bo belly.

Yes. I moved from Manti towards Fiction.

The order I had for that day was Fiction > TPS > Manti. And yes, reading the thread again was what made me order it like that.

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

I don't think he actually wants to lynch fiction/TPS/manti, TPS wants to kill fiction, fiction prolly gonna die although kraut hasn't directly commented much on fiction. there is something weird here and I feel kraut is focusing on people hes trying to distance himself from

So after, according to you, we made a whole plan that indirectly would make us closer (making a post and a partner calling out for it) then we went and tried to distance.

Then why to make the first thing? It would have been a waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Vendetta21

Look at Krauthammer: he has been on two green lynches, he is voting manti while suspecting TPS, and he is essentially following jrodd's lead. This after he voted for fiction over manti.

Read, think, kill.

Alright, first than all, I never took part of the pnt lynch.

Now, lynching people incorrectly isn't a way to say somebody is a wolf. By that logic, you, in that other game where you targeted or lynched incorrectly three or four humans, were a wolf. And there you were, a human. Callin other wolves for making mistakes in lynches...yeah, not good.

And yes, I'm voting Manti over TPS right now. As I said: it is not time for Instas. That was before I even knew that a guarded protection didn't leave a note. I thought MOMMY DEAREST would give the name of a wolf. So tell me, did you want me to stack another vote in another player when there is the possibility of even better evidence?

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Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

his actions looked bad on their own and look worse based on the flips we have. avoided the d1 wagon on me to vote another human. d2 Manti -> Fiction switch was opportunistic. the logic on his only two red reads had been stated by others before he paraphrased.

So I refuse to follow a lynch I don't believe, and go for a target I had a mere hunch. I'm not the kind to bandwagon, thanks.

And about the Fiction lynch...yeah, when I wrote my post about Fiction, there was a single vote on him. It is hard to call it opportunistic when my own vote was the second, and when the actual lynching target had around three or four votes on him.