TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

[FoJaR]

is this true?

[AC1speakerbox]

I like how he's using modtext in his demands

[FoJaR]

this is very game relevant
as game host it is my job to know everything

[cedolad]

I have AIDS.

and sometimes herpes.

[Vendetta21]

and just in case you aren't checking here is the post count round-up
User Name Posts
freakysnots 28
Vendetta21 25
FoJaR 17
Viccica 17
j-rodd123 16
cedolad 15
Crazyjayde 14
AC1speakerbox 12
DarkManticoreX2 8
yo man im awesome 8
dAnceguy117 8
Tps222 6
Zoshi 6
James May 4

[Viccica]

Number of posts doesn't mean much, though, does it? Freaky is a prime example of that.

[freakysnots]

everyone loves me

[freakysnots]

i like how no one takes what i say seriously anymore and immediately discounts what i have to say and then say im suspicious and a wolf, but not as suspicious as _____. this is funny because i know half of you are taking this chance to set up a huge bandwagon on me somewhere along the line

[freakysnots]

it's funny because im not a wolf and i know half of you are for doing it

[AC1speakerbox]

I think we all know you aren't dumb. Your play in this particular game just seems off to me.

[Viccica]

The problem is that you haven't tried to say anything of substance since your suggestion for multiple voting pools got shot down. You've been posting nothing one-liners here and there.

[Viccica]

And Ac1, you're not far behind.

[freakysnots]

i can give a detailed list of everything i've done so far in this game and it would make your head spin.

[freakysnots]

also ac1, i play like this. you know i do. it's just that no aim is being used in this game, so i'm posting more frequently making it seem odd.

[freakysnots]

Originally Posted by Viccica

The problem is that you haven't tried to say anything of substance since your suggestion for multiple voting pools got shot down. You've been posting nothing one-liners here and there.

are we even in the same game?

[dAnceguy117]

Sorry for disappearing!

Looks like we've got a couple newer players racking up some votes, a few power players throwing their weight around, and plenty of activity. The amount of input already is very encouraging.

I'll list what I believe are my strongest reads to this point, as well as a couple players who puzzle me thoroughly.


yo man - town
I reread the game hosted by Manti where yo man, V, and Kraut were the three wolves. yo man never once analyzed other players as deeply as he did here; in that game, he relied on vague attacks. I see yo man's "emotional reactions" as simply wanting to play the game past Day 1.


V - town
Dude prods people constantly. Sure, wolves can do that, but I view his contributions as purely pro-town. If he were a wolf, I think his aggression would be unsustainable, as he would have to avoid pressuring his own compadres.


Manti - wolfy
A couple of Manti's posts seem off to me. Check out where he fuels the fire for votes against yo man, while not taking any action himself:

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Personally I find the fact that he regurgitated data from valid points made by others quite suspicious.

(that's the entire post)


Zoshi - wolfy
Inactivity happens. Hell, I've been gone for 24 hours. To me, inactivity becomes particularly suspicious when a player pops in solely to defend him/herself with specific excuses. Case in point:

Originally Posted by Zoshi

Also want to point out AGAIN (said it before last game twice) that I'm not inactive, my timezone is GMT+1. I'm available from 4-12pm weekdays and 1pm-3am on weekends. I'm constantly on my 3G phone so please don't call me inactive, it bugs me, call me unfortunate, it's hard having to read 4 pages when I'm sleep and 5 posts when I'm awake.

AC1 - ???
Upon entering the thread, AC1 immediately started slinging what appear to be serious votes. Analysis of other players has been decent but accusation-heavy. Ex:

Originally Posted by AC1speakerbox

Every one of Zoshi's posts has been bad. To name a few: putting a quick second vote on yoman -- offering nothing more than a reiteration of my reasoning -- and the post on the previous page allowing himself to be frustrated by Viccica.

danceguy is doing this too, and I'm hoping for something substantial from both of you

Freaky rubs me the wrong way for running back to his 2 pool strategy that I guess didn't work last time and already establishing a pattern of revenge voting. I don't know if this is how he normally plays, and he's just extremely prideful, but I've never known anyone to do that in a game maybe short of Afro.

I agree with the vote on Zoshi, though.


cedo - ???
He has posted what appears to be honest detective work:

Originally Posted by cedolad

As for freaky, he's too...bark. He says a lot, and confuses me to be honest. He wreaks of wolf in a sense because he comes on strong trying to fit in, but I don't think he's the real threat.

On the other hand, some of his comments seem like posturing. Example:

Originally Posted by cedolad

Hmm. I wonder why. You're smart, I'm sure you can figure out why I'm looking for wolf behavior. I mean, you've hit just about everything else.

I'm gonna leave my vote on Zoshi. The vote was initially random, but now it's backed by actual reasoning.

[dAnceguy117]

also I wish I were a faster reader

[Viccica]

Do me!

[Tps222]

Freaky's post count could be cut in half if he would just condense his triple posts into a single coherent post. I think that's the biggest reason why people are reacting the way they are to you Freaky, your mindset seems very fluid. You're essentially the FFR Ribs of this game it seems.

Originally Posted by crazyjayde

Well anyway, I'll be back at my house at 22-23 and I'll be able to talk in depth about my motives and stances. I love the over-analyzing of my V vote though. I don't have much analytic skills but I know a lot about reasoning and from my experience, I find it easier to read people when they're directly suspecting you and thus I like playing the first day by creating a bit of controversity about me and being in a grey area. But like I said, I'm just playing it dumb right now.

This reads as a bunch of bullshit to me. I understand the strategy you're describing, I've attempted to use it in the past, but I really don't think it works in the end. Admitting that you're playing dumb is pointless and negates anything that you would be trying to do, other then appearing as a rationalized attempt to defend yourself (which I realize is in your own self-interest, but shouldn't be the driving force behind your play).

I'm not going to switch my vote off of JRodd yet, because I feel like he dodged my questioning on his YoMan vote and switched his vote to Freaky, the easiest and safest vote to probably place at this point.

[freakysnots]

I dislike making huge posts that list out how I feel about everyone. Smaller posts that target one person specifically are easier for me to write. I am making posts with logic, but it is being discarded by a lot of you as random fluff. Furthermore I get the vibe that people are starting to set up a future bandwagon based on my play style. This is really getting out of hand and can easily be manipulated by wolves for an easy lynch and I can see it has already begun to snowball.

This aside, I don't like vic. I always have bad memories from every game I play with her. She refuses to make any sense and when I read her posts, I feel like she skims through the first word of every post and tries to formulate an argument. And when people respond or talk to her, she somehow convinces herself she knows what is going on even without reading the thread. This isn't really game related though. She acted like this last game and was a mason. It doesn't make any sense and I don't know how we can deal with these players other than seering them.