TWG XCV: Nobody messes with the frog, see

[Zoshi]

Dance wanted a dramatic entrance.

[Vendetta21]

Zoshi can you illuminate what the heavy handed yet still oblique math allegory you created was trying to say?

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by Zoshi

Dance wanted a dramatic entrance.

When did he say this? In the thread?

[DarkManticoreX2]

@V yes.

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Liking the activity early on here. I'm not leaning heavily for/against anyone based on the reax we've seen, but the value of these reactions will really add up. Lots and lots of time to deliberate each day phase, which is pretty rad.

Keepin' the votes flying. Here's hoping for a dramatic entrance from
Zoshi

[Vendetta21]

What's the matter cedo? Cat got your tongue? You promised big things and failed to deliver.

Don't be scared homie.

[Zoshi]

No reason for the vote really.

[James May]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

Did anyone else see that? James dropped the term RVS. A clear sign that he is reading the mafiascum wiki. Worth pointing out.

Actually I'm playing another game in mafiascum...and that term gets thrown a lot in the beginning of the first day phase @_@

[Vendetta21]

Another thing to note is that since we have five more days, placing your vote on the person you currently find most suspicious rather than holding on to your vote is a good way to get the pressure cooker going. As a human you should hope to see all thirteen players voting because collectively we are better off that way.

[Zoshi]

James May

[DarkManticoreX2]

I agree with V's sentiment, it's just against my normal playstyle.

Viccica

This is a personal vote, not necessarily a wolf vote. You were saved from wolf consideration last game because you were a mason with TPS, not because of anything you did as a player.

The 4 games prior to the last one that you played in your activity has been terrible, and you're always in the pool of "doesn't say enough to have a good read" I know you have a crazy job that keeps you busy, but we need more words from you so we can get a read on you. I'm seriously sick of seeing you in the "I don't know because she doesn't take any stances" pile every game

[James May]

Originally Posted by Viccica

Can we pick up where we left off last game before it exploded and kill James May?

Viccica

Not sure why you are insistent in killing me...besides, shouldn't carry anything from previous games to this~


(forgot to bold her name on my first post, just realized it now -_-...)

@Zoshi: Any particular reason why?

[AC1speakerbox]

I'm going to follow my last line of thought and assert that in this stage where we can't draw any information from wolf activity, we should be dividing contributory behavior and selfish behavior from the pool.

yoman has been so kind as to actually let us know he was trying to fit in.

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by cedolad

well if you read my post maybe that would explain a thing or two lol

I just got home, realizing the game started. slowly starting my psychoanalysis of each of you.

vendetta

I'm with V on this one, don't make hollow empty promises to provide information and then not follow through. I'd love to hear your "psychoanalysis" of the player-base so far, as you are another person I have never played with. cedolad.

Manti's vote/point brings up another question I have. Is it better in this format to vote the least active player on the first day? I only say this because of a point made last game by V that really resonated with me. That when an inactive player remains alive and inactive for multiple days, they begin to become quite a fed carry, if we're using MOBA terms. As in, it makes it very difficult to get a read on them, difficult to find information to analyze and connect with, and difficult to decide if it's worth lynching them versus someone who may be deemed mildly suspicious at the time.

I think this is something we all need to reach a consensus on, and really keep the pressure going.

[Crazyjayde]

Just woke up from an eternal slumber, saw most of the additional posts and nothing seems of value really. Zoshi's particular entrance, votes going in good directions, etc.

I'm keeping my vote on cedo for earlier reasons (Jrodd's vote) and also because of your particular evasiveness to the stances garnered against you. You place a safety, keep the vote on a player with no evidence, give a weak reasoning for safety voting, place a reactionary vote on V. I'm not defending that this chain of events hints to a fishy behavior but more that it indicates lazy gameplay that does not contribute to the setting of a good field of exchange. I need to know how you'll be valuable to the hunt.
What gives me more suspicion about you than others is the fact that when V addresses your hollow reasoning, and I contribute by noticing an alternate view on the explanation, you don't seem to bother to defending the case, giving me the impression that you believe my intervention is sufficient to disregard any attention on you when it really doesn't serve this purpose.

TPS is offering good points and V is pinning weak plays nicely. You guys are playing like last game and are reestablishing beneficial roles. YMIA reaction didn't feel genuine to me, especially with the second post who seemed to distance himself from his reaction by explaining the reason of his impulsiveness. Felt off-place. I want to know more and he is a also a good candidate for voting, since it looks like an early attempt to fit in (like AC1 said).

That aside, I only want to state that I like to create early disturbances when in start of the game since it really has no significant repercussion (given that I'm also a new player). I feel like this is gonna fall flat in a C9++ format though. Anyway, I took V, an experienced and trusted player, as a launchpad for arising a different kind of discussion and making myself look inexperienced/easy to manipulate. This kind of approach often offers me better read on people and distinguishes which player falls for a manipulative strategy/offers better leaks on information. I think I needed to explain that a bit since I failed badly in doing so and since you guys don't really know how I work. Keep in mind I'm french and played solely IRL.

[Zoshi]

Yoman

I don't know why I changed :~S.

You man is trying to fit in, defense seemed a bit too personal etc.

[AC1speakerbox]

I'm giving Cedolad the benefit of the doubt on the timeliness of his response, but you better hurry up, bud.

Whether you think you deserve it or not, the spotlight is on you, and all we want are your thoughts. Any unnecessary delay is going to look really bad on you.

[Crazyjayde]

Originally Posted by Tps222

Manti's vote/point brings up another question I have. Is it better in this format to vote the least active player on the first day? I only say this because of a point made last game by V that really resonated with me. That when an inactive player remains alive and inactive for multiple days, they begin to become quite a fed carry, if we're using MOBA terms. As in, it makes it very difficult to get a read on them, difficult to find information to analyze and connect with, and difficult to decide if it's worth lynching them versus someone who may be deemed mildly suspicious at the time.

This resonates to me as well. Although as for now I'm seeing a good stream of activity and it is hard to distinguish which player falls under the inactive category. Thing is, with early phases, given that a player seems inactive, the ambiguity resides in the fact that there is next to nothing that can relate to him as an enemy player. With a night or two under the belt, even though it might be difficult to establish correlations within inactive players since the dynamic will have changed, we will also be more at ease in suggesting reads. In summary, give it some time before lynching inactive players, but don't wait too much. Don't know if I'm clear enough. u__u

I'll do my homework for this game now.

[j-rodd123]

^ I agree, it's not like a utr player will make it to end game and if they do it's not like they will make it there without a target on their back. Too early to determine activity level, but hoping for a high usefulness level so cedo

[cedolad]

And so the spotlight is on me. I say, I didn't realize one stupid post would put me in such a situation. As for that psychoanalysis I said I was working on, really can't complete that with it only being day one. Which is still throwing me off, starting games on day one come to bring an interesting aspect.

Anyway, V, you sure have a pretty aggressive play style. The more I think about it, you're arguments towards my post, it being lazy and half-assed, is all valid. Though I'm no wolf or whatever the role is called this game, I didn't structure a well thought out post because of just coming from work blah blah blah. I arbitrarily threw a vote out hoping to gain attention from others. Learn how they vote and why. I'm still trying to get a feel for the game considering this game has the most experienced players that I've played in.

I will admit my first post was sloppy and rather uncalled for. I should've been more patient and had more reasoning, but either way I still found it useful.

[Vendetta21]

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...osted&t=130270

Just discovered this neat function. You can find it by clicking the link created by the thread reply number in the sub forum.

Nothing really enlightening yet.

@fojar can we get a vote count.