Atheism/Theism thread

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

You can do both. Why must it be one or the other?

Can you really do both as effectively? For example: Where do you base your morals/values/virtues from? Science? Experience? Personal Observation? Collective sociological norms based on historical pros and cons? Would that require you to put your trust(faith) in human thought or your own thought for that matter? Are humans not born of flaw? Are we not born of tempation and deception? Are we not susceptible to mistakes or even lies and manipulation to ourselves and each other? To put your trust in man or even your own mind above a higher being is scientifically a form of individual seperation and hightened egoism. Do you not believe that we are all universally connected. Even Einstein tried explaining this through the theory or relativity.

A mass portion of the most intelligent scientists in the world believe in the possibility of a higher being as most atheists do. You don't discredit one exists, you just choose to say that you don't believe in one when hypocritically your actions prove otherwise in particular events throughout your life. It is a choice based on image and pride, rather then meaning and understanding.

I personally do not claim to be of any religion because i do not have faith in any religion. I don't focus on any current human-ran establishment because that is not the focus of God's message. I believe in Jesus Christ and God's message spoken through him and his apostles. I don't know if you read the Bible or not, but if you did, then even strictly as a scholar, you would agree with many if not all of its morals and messages on how to be a good person and live a good life.

You say you never needed the principles of the Bible to understand love and meaning. I say you are naive because those very principles such as love meaning and understanding came to you because of the Bible. The message was shared to you by others through actions based on the principles of the Bible and not verbally expressed to you as the love of God so of course you wouldn't recognize God as the 'source'. I understand why you would claim atheism, but in the end, words are just words and actions speak louder.