Jacks!!!!!

[21992]

As I usually play FFR i try to avoid the jack files as best as I can but still push my limits. But as I enter the 77+'s jacks just seem ... inevitable. Being my worst pattern I want to try to improve. Especially since my tourney song just kills me with those jump jacks towards the end that screw with my PA. Any suggestions?

[Hakulyte]

- Place your thumb behind the finger you use to jack for more control.
- Double tap the second to last arrow to avoid a boo at the end.
- Try to conserve energy by tapping more lightly, it will help keep up stamina.

What's the fastest jacks you can AAA?

There's a few songs in alternative engine that could be worth trying etc.

[James May]

just practice on files that rely heavily on jacks on the lower end files and slowly work you way up (and by lower end I mean mid 40s - high 60s (blu's & EN's Counter Strike Custom Sounds, Mysterious Desert, Club, Nitrix, Fei Longer, Starlight, Scars of Our Time, etc.)

edit: and what Haku said, try alternate engines that has jack files.

[top]

<3 jacks

the only thing you can do to get better at them is to practice. whether it be on long vibr8 jacks or on minijacks.. just practice, that's it

edit: good practice files off the top of my head: bmv, grist, einstein rosen bridge, aim anthem

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

- Place your thumb behind the finger you use to jack for more control.

Just tighten your arm/hand up when jacking, it creates the same effect without having to switch your thumb back and forth.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

- Double tap the second to last arrow to avoid a boo at the end.

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte

- Try to conserve energy by tapping more lightly, it will help keep up stamina.

errr, I would suggest the exact opposite, nail those jacks and nail them hard. I find it to be more consistent and audible that way for accuracy sake.

[SKG_Scintill]

Play Twister

[Jake Ferguson]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

errr, I would suggest the exact opposite, nail those jacks and nail them hard. I find it to be more consistent and audible that way for accuracy sake.

I also do better hitting them harder than normal. With lighter keytaps it's easier for me to lose the timing and goodrush.

[trumaestro]

Do what I do and just whore Fish Hell until you can't fucking stand it anymore. Then play it some more and you'll get a sense of what you'll need to do to do jacks faster than that.

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

Play Twister

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[Oni-Paranoia]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

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My thoughts exactly.

[KrazyKitsune]

I find it easier to do when I hit the keys hard. Gives me some more control as well as some audible signal that I'm hitting the jacks at the right time.

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by KrazyKitsune

I find it easier to do when I hit the keys hard. Gives me some more control as well as some audible signal that I'm hitting the jacks at the right time.

This helps me greatly with the intro of Demon Beast Appearance. If I don't focus on the fact that there's a lot of one-handed control involved and just keep my taps regular, I can usually get past the first 400 notes with 1-3 goods.

Jacks longer than 4-5 notes are where I notice a dropoff in my speed, especially when I know that that's all there is. Grist is a modest 140 bpm and I can barely PA the intro of that, though for some reason I can hit the first burst. Against jacks faster than 10 notes per second, all I can do is vibrate (preferably with my right hand--I used to tackle the ending of AIM Anthem this way back when I used the arrow keys) and hope for the best.

[SKG_Scintill]

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

Play Twister

Fine, I'll rephrase...

My suggestion: play 77+ files that don't have jacks, like Twister.

[ilikexd]

stop avoiding jack files

play more

make sure you're using your wrists

[21992]

Well actually I always seem to blow it on jacks, the highest AAA jack file i can do is probably the replicator but that is because I just abused the hell out of that song. I guess that's a strategy lol

[i love you]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

Just tighten your arm/hand up when jacking, it creates the same effect without having to switch your thumb back and forth

I REALLY like this advice. I find doing this much more helpful for jacks then pressing your thumb behind a finger. Then again, it is all about preference.

[igotrhythm]

The Replicator's jacks aren't the issue, it's the fucking bursts.

[21992]

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

The Replicator's jacks aren't the issue, it's the fucking bursts.

exactly just show's to you that I'm not the best at jacks hehe.

So I've gotten:

- Tighten your hand?
- Put your thumb behind your hand
- And play a bunch of songs with jacks

I'm not sure if this is true but I heard that having somewhat of a forearm build helps with jacks. I also heard something about squeezing an eraser? (Dossar)

[Hakulyte]

The thumb and eraser tip is to give yourself an idea of how you're supposed to place your finger.
You don't need a thumb, but you do need to be at that specific angle to hit jacks accurately at a certain speed. You can hit quick trills like jacks too.

[bmah]

21992, it's all about the wrists.



Fiddle around with the wrist movements when hitting arrows. I've went into great detail in the past, but I'll keep it short this time. The things that people have suggested above are all various methods in controlling your wrist dexterity, as well as keeping your fingers stable when jacking.