Let's talk about the video game industry - Page 3

**Kibblre** · 08-26-2012, 10:32 PM

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Expansions.

I've never purchased a true expansion, since I don't count the DLC I listed as an expansion because it didn't extend the original, so I wouldn't have an accurate opinion on them.

**Pseudo Enigma** · 08-26-2012, 10:35 PM

DLC can help keep the cost down on games. If the companies include the DLC into the game in certain cases, it would almost like be selling 2 games. Then they wouldn't be able to afford what it had cost to make it. (i.e. no profit at all) unless they priced it ridiculously high, which would turn certain gamers away.

sometimes DLC is good. The Dragon Quest VC (not sure what it stands for) in Dragon Quest 9 was a really good idea. It's a shop that pumped out quests and armor periodically, rather than all at the same time. That way the game would stay funner for a longer time. Also, it updated a shop with a weekly theme. So if you were collecting items it would make your life a hell of a lot easier, because some of the items in there were really rare drops.

Senip · 08-26-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Enigma

I haven't played anything other than LoM, SoM1&2, CoM and SoE, so I don't know if it's gone downhill or not. I know I enjoy what they've been doing.

That's what kills me about it, really. The series was so good, and Kingdom Hearts' insane (and, imo, mostly undeserved) popularity pretty much killed it.

**Kibblre** · 08-26-2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Enigma

DLC can help keep the cost down on games. If the companies include the DLC into the game in certain cases, it would almost like be selling 2 games. Then they wouldn't be able to afford what it had cost to make it. (i.e. no profit at all) unless they priced it ridiculously high, which would turn certain gamers away.

sometimes DLC is good. The Dragon Quest VC (not sure what it stands for) in Dragon Quest 9 was a really good idea. It's a shop that pumped out quests and armor periodically, rather than all at the same time. That way the game would stay funner for a longer time. Also, it updated a shop with a weekly theme. So if you were collecting items it would make your life a hell of a lot easier, because some of the items in there were really rare drops.

I'm talking about the shitty day 1 DLC. Saints Row 3 day 1 DLC. HAY GET MORE GUNS IF YA PAY $10 DOLLERS LOLOL.

**Pseudo Enigma** · 08-26-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kibblre

I'm talking about the shitty day 1 DLC. Saints Row 3 day 1 DLC. HAY GET MORE GUNS IF YA PAY $10 DOLLERS LOLOL.

yeah that stuff is bullshit and needs to go. I was more talking about the whole thing in general though.

Choofers · 08-27-2012, 12:51 AM

all I play is D3 and Rift

D3, all issues aside, is a decent action RPG and the raid encounters in Rift are, by far, the most fun I've ever had in a video game

**T-Force** · 08-27-2012, 03:12 AM

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Hmmm, I actually don't own a DS. What are some good RPG's for it?

The World Ends With You; Luminous Arc 2 if you want to try out a pretty basic, but good, strat-RPG; Dragon Quest IX.
Those would be my top 3 recommendations. Also, Professor Layton is essential if you want a fun puzzle game and Ace Attorney is just excellent.

**Emanresu13** · 08-27-2012, 09:52 AM

copied and pasted from my facebook (as in, i wrote it)

aug 16th:

i despise modern gaming trends

inb4 SF5 has $1 dlc for hadoken. and every other move

don't worry, it promotes "customization"

**kommisar** · 08-27-2012, 10:05 AM

pretentious indie developers are getting the hipster gamers' attention, most game companies cater to the dumb **** crowd who will eat up any pile of garbage they produce, and then there are a few actual gamers who find good games here and there but are gems that nobody's ever heard of now.

having said that, i'm going back to play nazo puyo now.

Senip · 08-27-2012, 02:03 PM

I think the Cthulhu Saves the World and Breath of Death 7 games were pretty fun. Like playing old school snes rpgs but with more humor thrown in.

**Ohaider** · 08-27-2012, 07:35 PM

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2. Extra shit you don't really need

Do we really need any video games haha

all personal preference, but

So much hate on multiplayer. REGARDLESS of the intention of the publisher, if i find a game fun i'll play it. Everyone tries to be so different and fresh by shunning certain aspects of games like multiplayer, limiting their overall potential of having fun

no fun

**andy-o24** · 08-27-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Enigma

If the gaming companies all donated money for videogame research more we could be playing with VR and stuff lol

May be VR for a linear FPS, but it's still pretty sweet. Embedding is disabled...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8Bh5iI2WY

dAnceguy117 · 08-27-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohaider

Do we really need any video games haha

all personal preference, but

So much hate on multiplayer. REGARDLESS of the intention of the publisher, if i find a game fun i'll play it. Everyone tries to be so different and fresh by shunning certain aspects of games like multiplayer, limiting their overall potential of having fun

no fun

like you said, it's all personal preference. I dunno if anyone is trying to be "different" or "fresh" by being more concerned with single player games and modes. a whole lot of games, especially ones made in the past few years, have had multiplayer shoehorned in. crap like that can limit developers' time and resources, leading to weak results in all areas.

don't get me wrong though. I enjoy me some multiplayer, particularly of the local variety. there's nothing quite like throwing down in Smash Bros, NHL, Halo, or whatever and smack talking your compadres face-to-face.

korny · 08-27-2012, 11:43 PM

The gaming industry is a joke. I don't even bother with it anymore. Haven't for a very long time, besides the super smash brothers sequels. Brawl was a joke too though. Even nintendo falls under the trend of, having lost sight of what makes something like a simple mario game, fun. There is wayyy too much concern for the aesthetic appeals of these games and they are likewise portrayed as " fun", when they should've just focused on the technicality and difficulty like they used to. The moment I played super mario bros wii, I hated it. Floaty, focuses on bullshit, geared towards children. Super mario bros 3 is geared toward all ages and not going to be beaten nearly as easily. I resort to independently made games not for any specific console like super meat boy to get the gaming experience that makes a video game genuinely great.

Choofers · 08-28-2012, 12:04 AM

I think the only genre that's "safe" would be JRPGs, and even then, Zaghurim can probably post some super bad ones.

Senip · 08-28-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by korny

The gaming industry is a joke. I don't even bother with it anymore. Haven't for a very long time, besides the super smash brothers sequels. Brawl was a joke too though. Even nintendo falls under the trend of, having lost sight of what makes something like a simple mario game, fun. There is wayyy too much concern for the aesthetic appeals of these games and they are likewise portrayed as " fun", when they should've just focused on the technicality and difficulty like they used to. The moment I played super mario bros wii, I hated it. Floaty, focuses on bullshit, geared towards children. Super mario bros 3 is geared toward all ages and not going to be beaten nearly as easily. I resort to independently made games not for any specific console like super meat boy to get the gaming experience that makes a video game genuinely great.

I dunno, I think SMB wii is geared towards playing with multiple people. playing with people=instant super hard, "i hate you get the **** out of here" gameplay.

korny · 08-28-2012, 12:13 AM

Haven't messed with the multiplayer so I can't really say I know what it's like. I just hate how the laws of gravity have changed so much that I instantly know what to expect from the game because of it's childish physics engine.

dAnceguy117 · 08-28-2012, 12:26 AM

the physics are floatier, but level design can still provide the same amount of challenge. not that it does in this case... the difficulty is more in exploration and finding secrets. still, though, I think you can find some modern games that are tough as nails. just gotta know where to look.

multiplayer in new super mario bros wii is amazing. it's equal parts fun and rage. exactly what pines said.

EDIT

GameSpot News Headlines
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Ico, Shadow of the Colossus producer leaves Sony

fml.

**Emanresu13** · 08-28-2012, 01:21 AM

i blame gta3 for making games too mainstream and ****ing it all up

i blame world of warcraft for taking it a hundred steps further and really ruining shit

i blame call of duty for taking it a thousand steps further and really ruining shit

hi i play gaia online i'm a gamer

2012, super bowl

**Pseudo Enigma** · 08-28-2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by andy-o24

May be VR for a linear FPS, but it's still pretty sweet. Embedding is disabled...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8Bh5iI2WY

Well shit, that's pretty nice. But it would only be featured in Arcades or at the Fair at best. Interested to see if they will act on what they spent tonnes of money to research here.

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Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

GameSpot News Headlines
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Ico, Shadow of the Colossus producer leaves Sony

fml.

shit I've been hearing how good SotC has been for years. I wonder if Sony will be the same giant in the gaming industry it has been for a while now.

08-26-2012, 10:35 PM	#42
Pseudo Enigma ごめんなさい　(/ω＼) Join Date: Aug 2012 Age: 30 Posts: 2,290	Re: Let's talk about the video game industry DLC can help keep the cost down on games. If the companies include the DLC into the game in certain cases, it would almost like be selling 2 games. Then they wouldn't be able to afford what it had cost to make it. (i.e. no profit at all) unless they priced it ridiculously high, which would turn certain gamers away. sometimes DLC is good. The Dragon Quest VC (not sure what it stands for) in Dragon Quest 9 was a really good idea. It's a shop that pumped out quests and armor periodically, rather than all at the same time. That way the game would stay funner for a longer time. Also, it updated a shop with a weekly theme. So if you were collecting items it would make your life a hell of a lot easier, because some of the items in there were really rare drops.

08-27-2012, 12:51 AM	#46
Choofers FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 35 Posts: 6,205	Re: Let's talk about the video game industry all I play is D3 and Rift D3, all issues aside, is a decent action RPG and the raid encounters in Rift are, by far, the most fun I've ever had in a video game __________________

08-27-2012, 10:05 AM	#49
kommisar Dark Chancellor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Moncton, NB Age: 35 Posts: 7,324	Re: Let's talk about the video game industry pretentious indie developers are getting the hipster gamers' attention, most game companies cater to the dumb **** crowd who will eat up any pile of garbage they produce, and then there are a few actual gamers who find good games here and there but are gems that nobody's ever heard of now. having said that, i'm going back to play nazo puyo now. __________________

08-27-2012, 02:03 PM	#50
Senip Forum User Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 38 Posts: 611	Re: Let's talk about the video game industry I think the Cthulhu Saves the World and Breath of Death 7 games were pretty fun. Like playing old school snes rpgs but with more humor thrown in.

08-27-2012, 11:43 PM	#54
korny It's Saint Pepsi bitch Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, tx Age: 36 Posts: 4,385	Re: Let's talk about the video game industry The gaming industry is a joke. I don't even bother with it anymore. Haven't for a very long time, besides the super smash brothers sequels. Brawl was a joke too though. Even nintendo falls under the trend of, having lost sight of what makes something like a simple mario game, fun. There is wayyy too much concern for the aesthetic appeals of these games and they are likewise portrayed as " fun", when they should've just focused on the technicality and difficulty like they used to. The moment I played super mario bros wii, I hated it. Floaty, focuses on bullshit, geared towards children. Super mario bros 3 is geared toward all ages and not going to be beaten nearly as easily. I resort to independently made games not for any specific console like super meat boy to get the gaming experience that makes a video game genuinely great.

08-28-2012, 12:04 AM	#55
Choofers FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 35 Posts: 6,205	Re: Let's talk about the video game industry I think the only genre that's "safe" would be JRPGs, and even then, Zaghurim can probably post some super bad ones. __________________

08-28-2012, 12:13 AM	#57
korny It's Saint Pepsi bitch Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, tx Age: 36 Posts: 4,385	Re: Let's talk about the video game industry Haven't messed with the multiplayer so I can't really say I know what it's like. I just hate how the laws of gravity have changed so much that I instantly know what to expect from the game because of it's childish physics engine.

08-28-2012, 12:26 AM	#58
dAnceguy117 new hand moves = dab Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: he/they Age: 35 Posts: 10,097	Re: Let's talk about the video game industry the physics are floatier, but level design can still provide the same amount of challenge. not that it does in this case... the difficulty is more in exploration and finding secrets. still, though, I think you can find some modern games that are tough as nails. just gotta know where to look. multiplayer in new super mario bros wii is amazing. it's equal parts fun and rage. exactly what pines said. EDIT GameSpot News Headlines --- Ico, Shadow of the Colossus producer leaves Sony fml. Last edited by dAnceguy117; 08-28-2012 at 12:36 AM..

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