Removing People from Friends List

[cedolad]

Originally Posted by Charu

This thread is both amusing and silly.

+1 for idea of notifications of someone being removed (Though lets be honest, all this would probably do is cause someone to get angry even though said person never talked to you before.)

too bad the worlds already angry.

[~kitty~]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Enigma

It's like.. not even necessary at all.
What's the point?
What good can come from it?
Why should the Admins waste their time on it?
Will these questions stop?
Line break..?

What's the point of having a forum?
Why should the admins waste their time on it?
You're speaking from the point of view of someone it doesn't really effect. However, there are people it matters to, for whatever the reason. Should we ban people who don't play the game and only use the forum? Should we ban people who only use the sites social networking? Why do you guys care about this? If you guys really thought this stuff was stupid and all, just ignore it instead of complaining about it.

[foxfire667]

Originally Posted by ~kitty~

What's the point of having a forum?
Why should the admins waste their time on it?
You're speaking from the point of view of someone it doesn't really effect. However, there are people it matters to, for whatever the reason. Should we ban people who don't play the game and only use the forum? Should we ban people who only use the sites social networking? Why do you guys care about this? If you guys really thought this stuff was stupid and all, just ignore it instead of complaining about it.

Quite a few of those questions seem highly irrelevant. Obviously the forum is used by most of the people on FFR, and is the center of the FFR community's social interaction. You are comparing a mechanism which has a very limited range of uses to something that is extremely important to how FFR functions as a community.

Originally Posted by UserNameGoesHere

The only possible conclusion I can draw is many of you are creepy ****s who like being on lots of people's lists but don't want lots of people on yours because you want to draw the appearance that lots of people "want" to be your friends but you're "uber-exclusive" despite the fact you're likely the one who added them in the first place

I also don't understand this argument, if they remove almost everyone from their friend's list, it appears as though they have very few connections with other people on FFR. No one makes any ridiculously ludicrous assumptions about people having a small list of friends, and neither should you. Aside from if they were on your top 16, no one would even see them on your friend's list, because no one would ever bother to look through all of your "friends" on FFR.

I completely agree that if you remove someone it should have you removed from their profile as well, but it is hardly something that is anywhere near as serious as you are making it out to be. Maybe an admin someday in the future will decide to resolve this issue, but let's tone down the perceived severity of the problem a bit.

[~kitty~]

Originally Posted by foxfire667

Quite a few of those questions seem highly irrelevant. Obviously the forum is used by most of the people on FFR, and is the center of the FFR community's social interaction. You are comparing a mechanism which has a very limited range of uses to something that is extremely important to how FFR functions as a community.

"Most people" meaning a hundred out of a couple thousand? The forum interactions are right in front of us, and we see the same people post every time with the occasional new face.

The mechanism I'm referring to has a just as large or larger userbase. Of course I do know that some people on FFR do not post but just read, however those same people wouldn't necessarily miss the forums and would easily like to see more regular updates on the home page for news. I am not saying we should get rid of these things, but that Pseudo's questions can be asked about other things as well, forum included.

[Winrar]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

no but tons of ppl care about profile votes for some reason, thats where theres a few who constantly update their profile to keep it on the home page. pretty lame lmao

I only did this because I liked having the people to talk to

[Fluvs]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

what if sonic and tails kiss?

That....that won't happen ._.

[foxfire667]

Originally Posted by ~kitty~

"Most people" meaning a hundred out of a couple thousand? The forum interactions are right in front of us, and we see the same people post every time with the occasional new face.

The mechanism I'm referring to has a just as large or larger userbase. Of course I do know that some people on FFR do not post but just read, however those same people wouldn't necessarily miss the forums and would easily like to see more regular updates on the home page for news. I am not saying we should get rid of these things, but that Pseudo's questions can be asked about other things as well, forum included.

Although chances are that more people might have a friend's list with people in it than the amount of people who use the forums (considering the sheer number of accounts created on FFR over the years) the percentage of people who actually use their friends list beyond the Top 16 frequently is most likely very minimal. I was just saying that the escalation in the importance of this issue compared to the existence of the forums seemed drastic.

I suppose you are right, Psudo's questions could be asked about other things. I just believe that the comparison was too steep in terms of the level of importance, compared to what a forum does, this friend's list removal issue is rather minor.

I'm not even sure why you brought such comparisons up in the first place honestly. If this thread started off without such severe distaste for those who removed users and simply requested for this feature to be implemented (or at the very least a removal on both profiles), it probably would have been taken a lot more seriously. Remember that I still agree with this happening, but I'm rather baffled by the level of importance some people place this issue at.

[~kitty~]

Originally Posted by foxfire667

Although chances are that more people might have a friend's list with people in it than the amount of people who use the forums (considering the sheer number of accounts created on FFR over the years) the percentage of people who actually use their friends list beyond the Top 16 frequently is most likely very minimal. I was just saying that the escalation in the importance of this issue compared to the existence of the forums seemed drastic.

I suppose you are right, Psudo's questions could be asked about other things. I just believe that the comparison was too steep in terms of the level of importance, compared to what a forum does, this friend's list removal issue is rather minor.

I'm not even sure why you brought such comparisons up in the first place honestly. If this thread started off without such severe distaste for those who removed users and simply requested for this feature to be implemented (or at the very least a removal on both profiles), it probably would have been taken a lot more seriously. Remember that I still agree with this happening, but I'm rather baffled by the level of importance some people place this issue at.

I used the forums as an example because it is clear that Pseudo uses them considering he's here. I doubt making a reference of equivalent "importance" would have done much in this situation. The importance of each thing here is also subjective to the user itself. Originally my point wasn't to say how many people it is important to, but that there are people it is important to.

Also, I wasn't taking Pseudo's answers as merely a response to the friends removal issue, but as to the social networking on here as a whole.
"Also, what in the ****, why the notification? This isn't god damn Facebook. Just make it so it's a mutual termination. If Person A deletes Person B as a friend, they are off of Person B's list."
This response coupled with the one afterwards (and there were others making responses in a similar fashion so it's not just directed to Pseudo) make it like an attack on people who use this site for anything besides gaming and/or the forums.

[infinity.]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

i wanted to say "lol the guy with a mlp avatar/sig complaining about people being creepy" but i am above such Baseless Insults because i am an Adult

i died and then came back to life to die again

[foxfire667]

Originally Posted by ~kitty~

I used the forums as an example because it is clear that Pseudo uses them considering he's here. I doubt making a reference of equivalent "importance" would have done much in this situation. The importance of each thing here is also subjective to the user itself. Originally my point wasn't to say how many people it is important to, but that there are people it is important to.

Also, I wasn't taking Pseudo's answers as merely a response to the friends removal issue, but as to the social networking on here as a whole.
"Also, what in the ****, why the notification? This isn't god damn Facebook. Just make it so it's a mutual termination. If Person A deletes Person B as a friend, they are off of Person B's list."
This response coupled with the one afterwards (and there were others making responses in a similar fashion so it's not just directed to Pseudo) make it like an attack on people who use this site for anything besides gaming and/or the forums.

You have to agree that the questions that you asked haven't made an additional effect on the situation regardless. No one has changed their minds on where they stand regarding the issue due to the comparison you made. Obviously the issues at hand are important to somebody, as everything is. I would imagine that backing up your reasoning to change the way removing friends is handled would have made more of an impact than merely mocking Pseudo Enigma's post with such extreme comparisons.

Why would you interpret Enigma's post as an attack on the entirety of the social networking on FFR?

Originally Posted by Pseudo Enigma

What good can come from it?
Why should the Admins waste their time on it?

As can be clearly seen from these two questions in their post, Enigma is referring to it as the solution Usernamegoeshere proposed for the friend removal issue.

Also, the tone people are having with this thread (ergo the "attack on people who use this site for anything besides gaming and/or the forums") is most likely due to the way Usernamegoeshere was acting so seriously enveloped by such a meager issue. I would imagine that (as I said before) if the issue was presented in a much less emotional and attacking manner, it would have been taken far more seriously. Essentially it's a good idea presented in a bad way by the thread, and might hinder it's chances of changing things for a while due to this.

[Pseudo Enigma]

The point of those posts weren't to attack the social factor of the site. It was to point out that this is a completely irrelevant thing that can only be fixed in a few seconds by pressing "remove as friend," and getting over it. No matter what he says, OP seems extremely butthurt that he lost a friend and if I had any reputable advice to give him (which is basically none) it would be to get over it.

The point of the second post was because I really don't think this is important enough for the admins to be focusing on fixing at the moment. But I could be wrong for all I know.

Still having a hard time taking this thread seriously lmao it's so filled with butthurt posts over a semi-trivial matter. Go smash some keys next time you're that upset, since everyone already knows about the issue of being removed as a friend is present.
cue drama (if that's not already here..)

edit:

Originally Posted by 2fast4u4ever

i think you should like switch it up a bit

like hiding it from people and just have like a friends list on some sorta private page
i mean it's really only for you to talk 2 ur friends and stuff


oh and with the suggestion that was made with seeing whos added u
have like a seperate list for that 2
and then have a message saying that a new person added u

i've suggested this before but it got rejected but i'll suggest it again
for the friends list show that the people you've added added you back
i mean it's not important but idk it just makes u feel that much special

well have an option to show your friends or not and if you want it on ur list
on your profile maybe have a choice to have their avatars not on your list
cause some ppl have retarded avatars and it's retarded to see them on others profile

well that's how i think n e way
i don't expect it 2 get accepted for 2 reasons

time
effort

I'd still take your OP over this OP, rofl

[PrawnSkunk]

But friendship is an easy feat! and you know, magic makes it all complete yeah.

[AlexDest]

all threads suck

every

single

one of

them

[Wayward Vagabond]

so stupid lol

[VisD]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

i am above such Baseless Insults because i am an Adult

[UserNameGoesHere]

Typical responses:

"Herp derp this thread is stupid. You are stupid."
Elaborate. If you don't agree with something, explain why. Otherwise it looks like you are the one who is stupid as you can't even formulate an argument. Disagree all you want, but be reasoned about it.

"Friends list doesn't matter/shouldn't exist/etc..."
Then delete everyone from yours and don't use it anymore. Otherwise you are just a hypocrite. I see many hypocrites in this thread.

"xyz feature of the site doesn't matter because I don't use it"
Then don't post in a thread about xyz feature if you honestly don't use it. What's the point in posting in a thread about something you don't use?

"Bandwagon lolololol"
Yeah, real original and brave of you there.

"Joke response"
So do you have an opinion on the topic or not? If so and if it fits one of the above, see above.

I see many interpreting things which were not said. If I didn't say something, I didn't say it. Nothing is "implied" and if you think so it is your own inner bias and your own irrational self adding context and things which simply aren't there.

As I've said many times, I don't mind people removing me but I'd simply like to remove them as well if they choose to do so -- that is all. I really don't see how it's possible to derive all this extra context some of you seem to be getting from that. If I was angry at people, wouldn't I be outing them or posting nasty things on their walls/etc??? but I am not doing any of that. So any emotion is your own extrapolation -- i.e. it comes from within yourself - not me.

Post all you want disagreeing with anything I've said, but be reasoned about it. So far I see very little of that.

What I think is many of you don't like that this thread describes you so instead of discussing it rationally, you choose to make it into things which it is not and/or extrapolate your own emotions onto others. You are trying to justify your own behavior. And you want the system to remain broken because it allows it. Because if many of you meant what you said, you wouldn't use the friending system at all -- and yet I see most of you do use it.

[Pseudo Enigma]

plus you're just misrepresenting all the people who were trying to help you.

Good luck now that you have just trashed your help.

p.s. your butthurt is showing

[foxfire667]

Originally Posted by UserNameGoesHere

I really don't see how it's possible to derive all this extra context some of you seem to be getting from that. If I was angry at people, wouldn't I be outing them or posting nasty things on their walls/etc??? but I am not doing any of that.

I'm just going to leave this here and let everyone else decide:

Originally Posted by UserNameGoesHere

The only possible conclusion I can draw is many of you are creepy ****s who like being on lots of people's lists but don't want lots of people on yours because you want to draw the appearance that lots of people "want" to be your friends but you're "uber-exclusive" despite the fact you're likely the one who added them in the first place, they likely accepted the request to be nice, and you likely added tons of other people as well and did the same to boast a sort of pseudo-popularity. And that makes you the ultimate losers.

The only people being unreasonable in this thread are many who apparently prefer being creepers and like the current broken system because it allows you to continue being creepy ****s.

[Pseudo Enigma]

Originally Posted by foxfire667

I'm just going to leave this here and let everyone else decide:

/thread

[UserNameGoesHere]

For those who don't care to use it, remove everyone from your friends lists, remove the ability for people to add you (it's an option in your user preferences), and leave it like that. Then leave the thread as it no longer pertains to anything you even use.

For anyone else who disagrees, please explain why it is you want to be on people's lists who aren't on yours.