Simfile Database - Page 4

cedolad · 07-23-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Patashu

I am all for a new simfile database, but the process of discovery and recommendation needs to be possible in it. Think about how in bemanistyle if you wanted to try new files you had to have a song name, song artist or simfile artist in mind already - there was no tagging system, no way to search for only pad or only keyboard files, by difficulty, by genre, by files that people who like the same files as you like, etc etc etc. If you need any help with that kind of thing (either conceptual or implementation) give me an IM, I might be able to help

This is what I hope we can accomplish. Because I remember the way I felt when I first started playing Stepmania and I couldn't find any files that I could play to help with anything, so I stuck with some Dragonforce pack that I couldn't even play for like months.

@Rebirth, I'll hop on now, did you try to PM Charlo or leave him a message on his wall?

**Patashu** · 07-24-2012, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedolad

This is what I hope we can accomplish. Because I remember the way I felt when I first started playing Stepmania and I couldn't find any files that I could play to help with anything, so I stuck with some Dragonforce pack that I couldn't even play for like months.

Excellent

**Rebirth0** · 07-24-2012, 01:00 AM

70% chance I'm using RF for this again. I'll start making in depth plans and layouts and hopefully I can get them coded

Choofers · 07-24-2012, 02:00 AM

as long as it's just a simfile db and not another community

Charlo · 07-24-2012, 08:34 AM

For communication, I don't have Skype so that's a no-go. PM is less convenient since it's only between two people. I think a forum or something would be best.

The database/back-end stuff should be considered carefully, making sure we have take everybody's feature requests into account. But layout/design work could start right away. I actually started doing a mockup of the main site layout, because I was bored: http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...harlo/site.jpg . I honestly don't care if it gets used or not, but it's something to build off of.

**Rebirth0** · 07-24-2012, 09:12 AM

Give me a day or two and I can have every single page and feature that we would need laid out. I can show what things should look like, and all that would be required is recreating that on code and linking them together and give permissions based on having an account, etc

cedolad · 07-24-2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlo

For communication, I don't have Skype so that's a no-go. PM is less convenient since it's only between two people. I think a forum or something would be best.

The database/back-end stuff should be considered carefully, making sure we have take everybody's feature requests into account. But layout/design work could start right away. I actually started doing a mockup of the main site layout, because I was bored: http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...harlo/site.jpg . I honestly don't care if it gets used or not, but it's something to build off of.

Get AIM yo.

Charlo · 07-24-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebirth0

Give me a day or two and I can have every single page and feature that we would need laid out. I can show what things should look like, and all that would be required is recreating that on code and linking them together and give permissions based on having an account, etc

So when you say layout, do you mean you're going to do the full design, or just rough ideas? I'm cool with either. It would be a good idea to have an idea of how the whole site will work together before we start throwing down code.

My AIM is sinistercharlo, I should be free most of the rest of the day. Does anybody even use AIM anymore?

Choofers · 07-24-2012, 03:22 PM

get with the times, use skype

cedolad · 07-24-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Choofers

get with the times, use skype

Sure if I was gonna to webcam.

**Rebirth0** · 07-24-2012, 06:24 PM

Everybody still uses AIM wtf

I was only talking about a rough layout that could be followed, but since this doesn't look like it'd be something very graphical intensive maybe I could do a full design. I would only need you guys to do the code to link everything together and make it all work. Not sure.

The singles part of the database will allow everybody who has an account to upload simfiles. However, I kinda want the packs part of the database to only allow certain people to upload packs. This will be based off a usergroup in the forums, assuming we use RF

**kommisar** · 07-24-2012, 07:08 PM

only yankees use aim.

civilized people use msn

coul ppl use skype

russians use icq

**Rebirth0** · 07-24-2012, 08:01 PM

Shit out most of what the packs pages will look like. Ignore the header because that is already completed and exists on RF.

We're probably just going to have one giant page for the packs index. No search option necessary because you can just ctrl+f and search that way

cedolad · 07-24-2012, 11:30 PM

Sounds like a good idear. I didn't get much of a chance to start the pack db. But if Charlo ever gets on AIM, me and him could start coordinating this.

Charlo · 07-25-2012, 02:50 PM

Cedo, I won't be able to get on much today, but if you want to start thinking about what tables/columns we'll need, that's fine. Much of it is straightforward but if we're implementing genres, we may want to do something like simfile-->simfilegenre<--genre where simfilegenre holds a relationship between a simfile and genre, so that simfiles can have multiple genres and genres could have multiple simfiles associated with them.

cedolad · 07-25-2012, 02:58 PM

I actually just got an interesting PM from someone that wants to help out. He actually sent me a database scheme.

http://i.imgur.com/EPZCq.png

Charlo · 07-25-2012, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedolad

I actually just got an interesting PM from someone that wants to help out. He actually sent me a database scheme.

http://i.imgur.com/EPZCq.png

Whoa, cool, that's pretty much exactly what I would have come up with, except I would have made (in his terms) a "linkGenreSim" table to allow for files to have more than one genre. Does this guy want to help code too?

PS I'm on AIM right now. Right at this very moment!

cedolad · 07-25-2012, 04:34 PM

Oops I guess I must of missed you haha. But yeah he said he's really interested. We need to all get on AIM one day lol

**Rebirth0** · 07-25-2012, 10:00 PM

Packs wouldn't have genres obviously, which is why I didn't include them in those pictures. They will be there for singles. I just haven't completed the images for them.

I kinda slept from noon to 9 PM today so I completely wasted any time I had to work on these

Charlo · 07-27-2012, 09:33 PM

Is the plan to have this on RedFraction? I sort of like the idea of an entirely separate domain better. I'm saying this in the most diplomatic way possible, of course.

*Edit* I would be willing to chip in a bit on hosting/domain costs.

07-24-2012, 01:00 AM	#63
Rebirth0 FFR Originalbro Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Age: 35 Posts: 8,751	Re: Simfile Database 70% chance I'm using RF for this again. I'll start making in depth plans and layouts and hopefully I can get them coded

07-24-2012, 02:00 AM	#64
Choofers FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 35 Posts: 6,205	Re: Simfile Database as long as it's just a simfile db and not another community __________________

07-24-2012, 08:34 AM	#65
Charlo FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 199	Re: Simfile Database For communication, I don't have Skype so that's a no-go. PM is less convenient since it's only between two people. I think a forum or something would be best. The database/back-end stuff should be considered carefully, making sure we have take everybody's feature requests into account. But layout/design work could start right away. I actually started doing a mockup of the main site layout, because I was bored: http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...harlo/site.jpg . I honestly don't care if it gets used or not, but it's something to build off of. __________________ Check out Guessthatalbum.com for a fun music-related game. I make metal files for keyboard players! Check them out at:

07-24-2012, 09:12 AM	#66
Rebirth0 FFR Originalbro Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Age: 35 Posts: 8,751	Re: Simfile Database Give me a day or two and I can have every single page and feature that we would need laid out. I can show what things should look like, and all that would be required is recreating that on code and linking them together and give permissions based on having an account, etc

07-24-2012, 03:22 PM	#69
Choofers FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 35 Posts: 6,205	Re: Simfile Database get with the times, use skype __________________

07-24-2012, 06:24 PM	#71
Rebirth0 FFR Originalbro Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Age: 35 Posts: 8,751	Re: Simfile Database Everybody still uses AIM wtf I was only talking about a rough layout that could be followed, but since this doesn't look like it'd be something very graphical intensive maybe I could do a full design. I would only need you guys to do the code to link everything together and make it all work. Not sure. The singles part of the database will allow everybody who has an account to upload simfiles. However, I kinda want the packs part of the database to only allow certain people to upload packs. This will be based off a usergroup in the forums, assuming we use RF

07-24-2012, 07:08 PM	#72
kommisar Dark Chancellor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Moncton, NB Age: 35 Posts: 7,324	Re: Simfile Database only yankees use aim. civilized people use msn coul ppl use skype russians use icq __________________

07-24-2012, 08:01 PM	#73
Rebirth0 FFR Originalbro Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Age: 35 Posts: 8,751	Re: Simfile Database Shit out most of what the packs pages will look like. Ignore the header because that is already completed and exists on RF. We're probably just going to have one giant page for the packs index. No search option necessary because you can just ctrl+f and search that way

07-24-2012, 11:30 PM	#74
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 32 Posts: 6,879	Re: Simfile Database Sounds like a good idear. I didn't get much of a chance to start the pack db. But if Charlo ever gets on AIM, me and him could start coordinating this. __________________

07-25-2012, 02:50 PM	#75
Charlo FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 199	Re: Simfile Database Cedo, I won't be able to get on much today, but if you want to start thinking about what tables/columns we'll need, that's fine. Much of it is straightforward but if we're implementing genres, we may want to do something like simfile-->simfilegenre<--genre where simfilegenre holds a relationship between a simfile and genre, so that simfiles can have multiple genres and genres could have multiple simfiles associated with them. __________________ Check out Guessthatalbum.com for a fun music-related game. I make metal files for keyboard players! Check them out at:

07-25-2012, 02:58 PM	#76
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 32 Posts: 6,879	Re: Simfile Database I actually just got an interesting PM from someone that wants to help out. He actually sent me a database scheme. http://i.imgur.com/EPZCq.png __________________

07-25-2012, 04:34 PM	#78
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 32 Posts: 6,879	Re: Simfile Database Oops I guess I must of missed you haha. But yeah he said he's really interested. We need to all get on AIM one day lol __________________

07-25-2012, 10:00 PM	#79
Rebirth0 FFR Originalbro Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Age: 35 Posts: 8,751	Re: Simfile Database Packs wouldn't have genres obviously, which is why I didn't include them in those pictures. They will be there for singles. I just haven't completed the images for them. I kinda slept from noon to 9 PM today so I completely wasted any time I had to work on these

07-27-2012, 09:33 PM	#80
Charlo FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 199	Re: Simfile Database Is the plan to have this on RedFraction? I sort of like the idea of an entirely separate domain better. I'm saying this in the most diplomatic way possible, of course. Edit I would be willing to chip in a bit on hosting/domain costs. __________________ Check out Guessthatalbum.com for a fun music-related game. I make metal files for keyboard players! Check them out at: Last edited by Charlo; 07-27-2012 at 09:37 PM..

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