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Infact, the death of said person could benefit some people. He wouldn't be taking up a spot in the hospital, doctors would have less work to do and yet somehow still be paid the same. However, there are also worse consequences. Someone having a coma is normally not killed immediately. Alot of the time...they wait months, sometimes even a year or two before they decide on wether or not they should give up. But htink about it...all of those months of hope for the friends and family, there was still that one possibility that one day this person would wake up. All of a sudden you decide to 'kill him' because he is a burden to society? By taking off this burden to society, you are placing a burden in the minds of both his friends and family. They will remember that even when there was that small chance of him waking up, the doctors decided to give up. The idea of the man with a coma was just an example and I don't really want to get into detailing arguing about it. The general idea of this thread is about wether or not those who are of no use to society should die, because they have become a burden to society. Let me tell you something. A father and mother have a child, and said child could be considered a burden. They have to pay for the child's school and other needs. Why do they still decide to raise the child, when they could keep all the money and time for themselves and possibly enjoy a happier/ more free life? It's because they have hope. They feel that after raising this child, the child will one day repay them and I'm not talking about money. Every parent would love to have a child who comes by and visit just to talk when they're older. They base the decision of having a child on the hope. Why does society consider to pay for those who do nothing for society? It's the same word; hope. They want these people to one day wake the fuck up and do something for society because they want to, not because they feel OBLIGATED TO. I'm in a hurry so I'm sorry if there's any typos in my post..
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So no, people will not owe me anything, in all likelyhood.
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This is my views on the subject. I am a caothlic so If I go a bit religious on you all im sorry. Lets look at it like this. God loves everyone and everything because we are his creation. He wants us to live our life to the fullest and wants us to succeed in life even if that may not always happen. Aside from that even if there is a homeless person the streets then they shouldnt go and kill themselves because they are not contributing to society. thats just being superficial and trying to make the world perfect, and since we are not perfect we can never attain that status so why kill off people the make the perfect world when thats impossible? Also we cannot predict the future so the fact that he became homeless was not intentional and the fact that he got there im sure he didnt want to be so I dont think he wants to kill himself. I am sure his mind set wasnt "here let me become a bum so that I feed off society but later on when I know im reaping the sew from the society I will kill myself to promote gain to everyone" as you seem to be implying. Also on the fact that we cant predict the future. What about abortion? We kill babies just because the mother cant deal with it. Why take away the value of another human life and take away his rights of living just because we cant see it or hear it speak on argue its points in life on why should it live. shouldnt we already assume that everyone has worth no matter where they are and the fact that they do have worth we shouldnt be telling them to kill themself. Honestly in my oppinion if a person feels worthless and they want to commit suicide, hey its not my decision to that fact, but the fact that people putting others down or the fact that society puts pressure on us to gain gain gain and give to the economy and the also because there are pressures in life in wanting to be someone makes us constant in fear that we will fail. But others cannot go and say "Hey your worthless you should die" because they have no right to judge that person just because they think there in a higher status then the other. Everyone has worth and whether or not they want to continue there life is THERE own personal decision not ours. Just as jesus christ died on the cross for our sins that was HIS personal choice to benefit everyone else so that we could have a connection with god and have our sins ultimately forgiven. So my point is its the persons decision on there act that if they think that suicide will better the economy then they do it even though its sinning but not everyones relgious right? but we as a society cant put a stamp on everyones forhead labeling there worth and if there worth becomes less they have on obligation to die
phewww that was long, well if you dont read the bible and dont believe in god and whatnot please dont get into a religious battle with me im not in the mood to deal with incompetence. Please dont take offence in this sentence I just dont want people to miss the main point an argue god to me when thats not my point im trying to get across thanks ![]() |
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Please sepreate your post into paragraph's please, it makes it easier to read.
Actually, I was talking to Tass a bit back about making everyone take an IQ test, then only keep the to 15% percent of the population. With so few people to keep up the economy, we revert to hunting and gathering, while we mass produce. These 15% will breed a sort of "new smart human breed". Then we rebuild the Earth. I guess poor people killing themself could be a start, but wouldn't that just shift the poor class to the class that was above the older poor class? |
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The fact is we are animals.
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I agree with you on that blah. But if that person has a religion that dosn't want him doing that, then no, he shouldn't. That should be top priority in a person's life. It's the only reason I havn't killed myself yet.
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