FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

[bmah]

Alright, I actually didn't expect to see three songs for you guys to all have fun with. Please don't rage at me.

Jumper
Musician: Waterflame
Stepartist: Niala
Difficulty: 7
Genre: Happy Tune
Song Length: 1:38

Sunless Daybreak [Heavy]
Musician: DJ WongTong
Stepartist: psychoangel691
Difficulty: 8
Genre: Techno
Song Length: 2:21

wiinter dream
Musician: Yamajet
Stepartist: bmah
Difficulty: 10
Genre: Disco
Song Length: 1:52

SAMBISTA
Musician: DOT96
Stepartist: bmah
Difficulty: 10
Genre: Hard Dance
Song Length: 1:43

Halcyon [Xi]
Musician: Xi
Stepartist: bmah
Difficulty: 11
Genre: Hard Renaissance
Song Length: 2:38

Mourning the Lost
Musician: 3 Mile Scream
Stepartist: DossarLX ODI
Difficulty: 12
Genre: Speed Screamo
Song Length: 2:55


Have fun and discuss!

[hi19hi19]

Not a fan of D4 song. More later.

[psychoangel691]

Again I expect some difficulty debate, just keep it civil please.

Aj and I couldn't agree on Sunless Daybreak one of us said 8 the other 9 lol.

[One Winged Angel]

Only played the D3/D4 songs right now, gonna be a tough time for both divisions but I loved the D3 file

...I'll also be stunned if anyone in that division AAAs

[Netjet!]

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

Only played the D3/D4 songs right now, gonna be a tough time for both divisions but I loved the D3 file

...I'll also be stunned if anyone in that division AAAs

supermoe has a BF, so its likely.

[sticklydude]

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

I loved the D3 file

ur crazy

[hi19hi19]

Why I hate the D4 file:
First of all, the song is awesome, so I'm going to be that much more sensitive to a bad file for it

In the first section there is missed emphasis in the drums that should have led to a lot more jumps. The jump usage here seems really sporadic and inconsistent.
There's a blatantly missed burst at 174 combo. Really bmah?
The hand usage is inconsistent in the following section where the temple blocks come in.
There's a missed polyrhythm around 435 combo.
In the section starting at 510 the melody should be jumps to be consistent with the earlier parts, and it's not.
Around 650 there is a missed rhythm in the drums.
The minijacks to the vocals are inconsistent in the ending section.

Overall just a shitty file. Not impressed. I'll play the others later.

[Choofers]

If anyone says the D5 song is not an FMO, you suck.

[hi19hi19]

My reaction to Halcyon:

wow really fun file
way to gay it up with awful jump transitions at the end
holy shit never playing it again after I FC
>_<
I hate these files that are fun for 95% of it
then physically pain me with how bad they are in like, 2-3 places

Bmah we need to teach you how to make good transitions. Leading out of some of those rolls and then especially those two minijack jump transitions at the end are just completely awful, totally ruin what's otherwise an amazing file for me.

[TC_Halogen]

jesus hi19, subjectivemanias much

I happen to really like SAMBISTA as a file. There's some pretty nice flow to it, although those 48th bursts are pretty mean (that's sugarcoat for "bmah, you're a dick!").

Mourning the Lost is REALLY fun, holy shit. Most fun I've had on a FGO in quite some time. Props, Dossar.

Halcyon is nice, but very spiky in difficulty. I have a feeling there will be quite a bit of hate associated with it.

[Magicturbo]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Again I expect some difficulty debate, just keep it civil please.

Aj and I couldn't agree on Sunless Daybreak one of us said 8 the other 9 lol.

I'd personally say high 8

A few patterns I can't grasp in the song. I get the same 3 goods every time in the same spot =/

[00Razor00]

Nice copying and pasting, Dossar.

Halycon was decent. Props to Bmah.

Haven't played the other 3.

[bmah]

@steppers: Please keep in mind that some people are pressured to play the songs for the tournament. I honestly think it's logical that some might be frustrated with having to play songs for a better score. I play casually myself, so putting my free time into a song I don't like to play is understandable.

@players: Keep up with the feedback, and please keep an open mind. Thanks!

[leonid]

D6 chart: I like how you put the mirrored version of the first half on the second half so that it feels gay on both hands (i.e. mirror doesn't work) The chart fits the song well enough, but I didn't like the song at all

[Sweet_Feet]

Same boat as hi19, not too crazy for D4 but legit reviews will be posted tomorrow.

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

jesus hi19, subjectivemanias much

I happen to really like SAMBISTA as a file. There's some pretty nice flow to it, although those 48th bursts are pretty mean (that's sugarcoat for "bmah, you're a dick!").

IDK for someone who likes technicalmanias as much as you do (not a bad thing btw) I would figure you would also be bothered by the huge inconsistencies in the file.

It doesn't flow well at all for me, in part because the expectations built up in one section of the file completely don't carry over to the next part. Jumps to melody, okay. Oh wait jk not anymore... Oh then just once I pull a jump to the melody again, psyche back to singles on the melody again

No flow at all like that >_<

Also the more I play it the more I'm convinced Halcyon could have been the best file in FFR hands down if it wasn't for some really dumb choices in the end. Climax theory should never take precedence over avoiding-gay-patterns theory.

[TC_Halogen]

I do that kind of scrutinizing as a judge. Not as a player. I think that it's good to be able to discern a technically correct file, and a nicely flowing/fun file. SAMBISTA doesn't have that many errors because a lot of those things are intentional omissions anyway.

And there's nothing wrong with climax theory - if it boosts in difficulty appropriately with the song and it's memorable, nothing else matters. The harder it is, the more replayable it is.

[DossarLX ODI]

I actually didn't copy paste

I remember when I was deciding on whether to set bootraps on the jumptrill transitions but decided to do minijacks instead for good flow. I did keep a similar scheme for the upjack sections, and by some bizarre chance I must've stepped the other parts really close to what it would look like mirrored. The file itself follows the same layering.

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

My reaction to Halcyon:

wow really fun file
way to gay it up with awful jump transitions at the end
holy shit never playing it again after I FC
>_<
I hate these files that are fun for 95% of it
then physically pain me with how bad they are in like, 2-3 places

Bmah we need to teach you how to make good transitions. Leading out of some of those rolls and then especially those two minijack jump transitions at the end are just completely awful, totally ruin what's otherwise an amazing file for me.

what, those minijack transitions are fine

the middle though... it took me easily 15 tries to not get a cb on that

[bmah]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

I actually didn't copy paste

I remember when I was deciding on whether to set bootraps on the jumptrill transitions but decided to do minijacks instead for good flow. I did keep a similar scheme for the upjack sections, and by some bizarre chance I must've stepped the other parts really close to what it would look like mirrored. The file itself follows the same layering.

When did you step your version? I did this earlier in February.