Hard Song Special Batch - Submission Closed

[Reshiram]

I actually have a general question to the judges. If I had cut every white note out of the song, would GB have been accepted?

[SKG_Scintill]

Sorry Reshiram, despite the fact that the first sentence was pointed towards you, the rest of the post wasn't. Didn't want to double post and all that

[ninjaKIWI]

So, pass means that they just didn't judge it right? What happens then?

[bmah]

Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

So, pass means that they just didn't judge it right? What happens then?

For this batch, if you've got 6 ratings for a song, that's all you need. If you have less than that, and the other is/are [PASS], you'll just have to wait as we sort things out...

[ninjaKIWI]

Originally Posted by kjwkjw

i love (orange things) (ninjaKIWI) 8/10 [+]
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Playtest: Nicely done; that was very fun to play.
Editor: You may want to fade out the mp3 so the ending of the song doesn't come across as strange to people.
m. 40 (159.75) - ghost note?
m. 49 (192.50) - feels like there needs to be a note here - you decide (you might have to change the patterns around there a little bit).
Short Thoughts: i love (this file)

I'm debating stepping the ending but ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh~ it's weird. Thanks for the notes!

Originally Posted by qqwref

i love (orange things) (ninjaKIWI) - 8/10
Playtest: Nice flowing stream/jumpstream parts, and some interesting patterns. Nothing too awkward, either.
Editor: There are a few spots where I'd like to see some extra notes: the last 4th note in m7, the end of m10 Normally I'd agree, but I've chosen not to step that percussion until later in the song (after the speed up), m23-24 I'm debating stepping the vocals here, but I'm still kind of iffy. All of the judges would seem to prefer that though so!, the 8th note just before m42 and two more after the first hand in m42Yes, thank you! I didn't notice those sounds but it fits nicely., and the very ending (after your last note).

Originally Posted by nigs

I Love (Orange Things) (ninjaKIWI)
- File was early by 0.04. Global offset issue most likely.
- M23+ (Beat 88+) I feel you should've at the very least layered in the vocals. It'd be a better transition into M24+ and it wouldn't abruptly break the flow of the file like it does here.
- A lot of opportunity to use hands that you didn't quite take advantage of. I feel that the 4 hands you have in the file are random and don't really have much impact to the song.
- Layering's good for the most part. Nothing erroneous worth noting. Patterns flow fluidly.
[7/10]

Originally Posted by bmah

i love (orange things) / ninjaKIWI
rating: 5/10 [+?]
- chart is too easy for this batch
- m7,10-11,13: missed arrow(s)/jump(s) to the drums and percussion
- m7-8,10,12-13: missed arrow right before the next measure (e.g. end of m7) to the bass drum. I see that you do this later on in the song, so perhaps you're just layering selectively? Yup. I hope that's okay, and doesn't seem too random or inconsistent?
- 30.29s: jump
- m23-24: too empty; fill up a little
- Summary: A very good file, but it's a bit too easy to accept in this batch. Please send it in again during a regular batch!

Man, I really wish I had more SAPs. I already have a dozen files ready for the next batch and 3 files per batch is going to clog me. FFR Winter pack, here I come.

Originally Posted by bmah

For this batch, if you've got 6 ratings for a song, that's all you need. If you have less than that, and the other is/are [PASS], you'll just have to wait as we sort things out...

Oh, I see. Thanks!

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

Man, I really wish I had more SAPs. I already have a dozen files ready for the next batch and 3 files per batch is going to clog me. FFR Winter pack, here I come.

WELCOME TO MY WORLD

Submission caps are evil. EVIL I TELL YOU.

[NekoGon]

so is weyx accepted or

[Ziergdsx18]

nope

sip weyx xd

[NekoGon]

..... I am disappoint.......

[jimerax]

hmm it will take me a while to determine the final result since I don't have much time right now and I'll be inactive for like a week.

[jimerax]

sorry for being late, here's the result of this batch.

[Queue'd]
[12M] Scrap Syndrome (TC_Halogen) - m117-m138 32nds can be put for bass drums, which are more audible. .dwi file required.
[11H] The Bird's Poisoned Bathwater (Xayphon)
[11M] Halcyon (bmah)
[11M] Chaos Maid (kommisar)
[12H] FREEDOM DiVE (hi19hi19) - HUGE JS WALLS W/O TECHNICAL ISSUES
[12M] Husigi Usagi Milk Tei (jimerax)
[12L] Pandora (_.Spitfire._) - some jump + burst patterns (like m55) feel a bit awkward to hit
[12L] Rain (kommisar)
[11M] The Bird's Concrete Nosedive (DossarLX_ODI) - note-syncing can be improved
[12M] Betrayal (samurai7694)
[12L] Love & Justice (bmah)
[12M] Music (For Kirby) (bmah) - felt some instrumental layering methods don't match the music intensity.
[12L] Tsugihagi Construction (Ziergdsx18) - end of m52 - change 32nds to 24ths (or I'll just fix it)
[12H] do i smile? (_.Spitfire._)
[12M] Slashmaid [Instrumental] (DossarLX ODI) - m108- overdone jump/hand usage
[12M] Zombie Sunset (leonid) - some minijacks on hi-hats (ex m90-94, m123-127) feel a bit intense

[Conditional Queue'd]
[11L] Car Sax (who_cares973) - add 2sec silence, need .dwi file. barely an FMO.
[12L] Magical Higan Tour 2009 (Ziergdsx18 & kommisar) - fix all of these things:
- bursts like m13 - 48ths are faster than the actual rhythms.
- bursts like m31 - 24ths should be 32nds
[11L] All Y'all Bitches (megamon88) - The only difficulty factors are minijacks, most of those go into hands (for accents I know but I doubt there're enough good musical reasons for those strong accents). Without those minijacks it will be a VC. At least hands after 32nd bursts should be doubles for reducing unnecessary spikes, then it can be queue'd.
[11M] Rotary Slicers (Xayphon)
- minijacks (m57-58, m73-74 etc) feel a bit too intense for the song (overdone emphasis).
- 24ths on m60, m76, m80, m86, m91, m92, etc can be done differently (when backgrounds are clearly 16ths or 32nds).
[12M] System Doctor (_.Spitfire._) - m23, m43, m123 an extra jump in jumptrill should be removed.
rhythms of m97?
[12H] Piano Etude (Demon Fire) (who_cares973) - hyper jacks + layer.. on m45, m60, m88-90, m108 triple/quadruple jack patterns should be avoided as possible if not all. also, .dwi file is required.

[Passed primary judgement but not queue'd]
[10H] I Love (Orange Things) (ninjaKIWI) - The file seems fine but doesn't meet difficulty requirement, resubmit to regular batch.
[12L] Fried Eggs In My Ear (samurai7694) - Interesting song but way too incorrect in terms of rhythms overall, can be fixed and resubmitted.

* these difficulties are quite rough and maybe not very accurate.

[Ziergdsx18]

Originally Posted by jimerax

sorry for being late, here's the result of this batch.

[Queue'd]
[12M] Scrap Syndrome (TC_Halogen) - m117-m138 32nds can be put for bass drums, which are more audible. .dwi file required.
[11H] The Bird's Poisoned Bathwater (Xayphon)
[11M] Halcyon (bmah)
[11M] Chaos Maid (kommisar)
[12H] FREEDOM DiVE (hi19hi19) - HUGE JS WALLS W/O TECHNICAL ISSUES
[12M] Husigi Usagi Milk Tei (jimerax)
[12L] Pandora (_.Spitfire._) - some jump + burst patterns (like m55) feel a bit awkward to hit
[12L] Rain (kommisar)
[11M] The Bird's Concrete Nosedive (DossarLX_ODI) - note-syncing can be improved
[12M] Betrayal (samurai7694)
[12L] Love & Justice (bmah)
[12M] Music (For Kirby) (bmah) - felt some instrumental layering methods don't match the music intensity.
[12L] Tsugihagi Construction (Ziergdsx18) - end of m52 - change 32nds to 24ths (or I'll just fix it)
[12H] do i smile? (_.Spitfire._)
[12M] Slashmaid [Instrumental] (DossarLX ODI) - m108- overdone jump/hand usage
[12M] Zombie Sunset (leonid) - some minijacks on hi-hats (ex m90-94, m123-127) feel a bit intense

[Conditional Queue'd]
[11L] Car Sax (who_cares973) - add 2sec silence, need .dwi file. barely an FMO.
[12L] Magical Higan Tour 2009 (Ziergdsx18 & kommisar) - fix all of these things:
- bursts like m13 - 48ths are faster than the actual rhythms.
- bursts like m31 - 24ths should be 32nds
[11L] All Y'all Bitches (megamon88) - The only difficulty factors are minijacks, most of those go into hands (for accents I know but I doubt there're enough good musical reasons for those strong accents). Without those minijacks it will be a VC. At least hands after 32nd bursts should be doubles for reducing unnecessary spikes, then it can be queue'd.
[11M] Rotary Slicers (Xayphon)
- minijacks (m57-58, m73-74 etc) feel a bit too intense for the song (overdone emphasis).
- 24ths on m60, m76, m80, m86, m91, m92, etc can be done differently (when backgrounds are clearly 16ths or 32nds).
[12M] System Doctor (_.Spitfire._) - m23, m43, m123 an extra jump in jumptrill should be removed.
rhythms of m97?
[12H] Piano Etude (Demon Fire) (who_cares973) - hyper jacks + layer.. on m45, m60, m88-90, m108 triple/quadruple jack patterns should be avoided as possible if not all. also, .dwi file is required.

[Passed primary judgement but not queue'd]
[10H] I Love (Orange Things) (ninjaKIWI) - The file seems fine but doesn't meet difficulty requirement, resubmit to regular batch.
[12L] Fried Eggs In My Ear (samurai7694) - Interesting song but way too incorrect in terms of rhythms overall, can be fixed and resubmitted.

What.....?

[hi19hi19]

What happened to Head Banger? I thought a 6.5 average counted as passing primary judgment...

[jimerax]

Don't feel bad, it was 6.4 after the mean/SD rating adjustment. really close though.

6.5 was almost exactly the median (best 50% of files) line on this batch.

[Ziergdsx18]

Sorry but I don't think I'm changing those conditional notes on Higan, that's absurd when not a single judge complained about those spots when judging the file - not to mention I just tried doing that and it ****s up the chart structure.

[jimerax]

Originally Posted by Ziergdsx18

Sorry but I don't think I'm changing those conditional notes on Higan, that's absurd when not a single judge complained about those spots when judging the file - not to mention I just tried doing that and it ****s up the chart structure.

Those are clearly errors. For technical files like this, it's bad especially when "approximate" bursts are faster than the acctual rhythms. and those ones appear continuously on this file basically.

24th ones may, but fixing 48th ones doesn't break any structures, and making the file better in any sense. Just several measures, easiest suggestion might be making it two 32nds + three 48ths.

[TC_Halogen]

24ths over 32nds are obviously intentional since it's done nearly every time.

The earlier bursts seem like approximated rhythms that are relatively close and use a fairly simple rhythm for the sake of flow - is it really necessary? (same argument as the judgment subforum - the file could use those fixes but they don't seem -necessary-)

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by jimerax

Don't feel bad, it was 6.4 after the mean/SD rating adjustment. really close though.

So it wasn't accepted?
I just checked my math, it got a 6.5 on the dot according to what was posted (7+6+8+5+6+7=39, divide by 6 judges is 6.5 exactly)
What is this mean/SD rating adjustment..?

[jimerax]

These are pretty much care/don't care discussion, nothing more.
only like 20% faster, like you say.

I really don't see why you refuse to take opinions/fix things, but don't want this issue to take long this time for some reasons. I can just fix earlier ones but if the action is even refused I'll just leave it.

[Ziergdsx18]

The 48th's I can understand jx, but I just can't accept placing my chart structure in jeopardy by altering something that covers pretty much 40-50% of the file when it was intentionally meant to be more simplified rather than technical or w/e you might want to call it. That and the mis-rhythms/errors in said spots are barely even noticeable on a normal playtest.