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View Poll Results: When in an argument, do you take a(n):
aggressive stance (attack the person for faults to prove them wrong) 10 43.48%
defensive stance (defend your points to prove yourself correct) 13 56.52%
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Old 05-7-2011, 01:04 PM   #1
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Default Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

The reason why behavior is in quotes is because it's intentionally meant to be a vague question.

Also, I'm talking about behaviors in arguments, and not in something planned out or meant to be recreational arguing (or debating).

My question to you guys: when in the heat of an argument, do you find yourself more likely to take an aggressive stance and attack the receiving party for their faults or mistakes, or do you end up taking a defensive stance by defending yourself?

In many of the arguments that I've been in (mostly with my parents), we both seem to take a defensive stance -- neither of us really accuse each other of faults, but rather defend ourselves in hopes of proving ourselves correct (rather than proving the other person incorrect).

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Old 05-7-2011, 02:11 PM   #2
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

Needs option 3, a mix of both options 1 and two.

You need to prove yourself correct, but also deny or give doubt about your opponents stance.
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Old 05-7-2011, 02:50 PM   #3
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I pretty much agree with Midnight on this
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Old 05-7-2011, 02:57 PM   #4
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

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Needs option 3, a mix of both options 1 and two.

You need to prove yourself correct, but also deny or give doubt about your opponents stance.
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I pretty much agree with Midnight on this
I'm aware of the fact that it sometimes takes a combination of both strategies to get your desired reaction, but the questions ask what you're more likely to do, rather than whether or not you do them.
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Old 05-7-2011, 03:10 PM   #5
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I usually defend myself
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Old 05-7-2011, 03:16 PM   #6
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I do both, especially when someone attacks something thats very dear to me like a story I wrote or something like that.
Honestly though, I probably attack a lot more people than I realize for their critiques...
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Old 05-7-2011, 03:18 PM   #7
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I've never really realized it, but now looking back it does seem like I am more defensive than aggressive in arguments. I guess I would attribute this to me being more worried about myself having a correct stance rather than my opponent having an incorrect one.
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Old 05-7-2011, 03:22 PM   #8
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I use the prasangika-madhyamaka method of reductio ad absurdum to argue that any positive beliefs that anyone else has are wrong.

I don't need to defend my own beliefs because I don't have any
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Old 05-7-2011, 03:35 PM   #9
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

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EDIT: Can someone add this question and poll options to the OP:

- When in an argument, do you take a(n):
aggressive stance (attack the person for faults to prove them wrong)
defensive stance (defend your points to prove yourself correct)
Added that for you.
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Old 05-7-2011, 03:41 PM   #10
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I do either depending on the argument...
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Old 05-7-2011, 03:52 PM   #11
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I probably lean more towards the defensive stance. Usually I go with the "You believe what you believe and I believe what I believe" stance but I try not to get aggressive or the arguments I have tend to escalate and may become violent.
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Aggressive, yup definitely that one.
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I don't see why defensive is the majority vote, it seems to me like everyone on FFR has something to prove, and as it's the internet no one has anything to lose, so everyone comes out swinging. At least they do here.

Also, the type of argument Midnight is talking about is called Rogerian. It's the practice of reasoning with your opponents points and then proving your own.
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

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Added that for you.
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I don't see why defensive is the majority vote, it seems to me like everyone on FFR has something to prove, and as it's the internet no one has anything to lose, so everyone comes out swinging. At least they do here.

Also, the type of argument Midnight is talking about is called Rogerian. It's the practice of reasoning with your opponents points and then proving your own.
point 1: we're not picking any particular situations; just because some people put up an internet personality of some sorts doesn't mean their true personalities make them aggressive/defensive.

point 2: fair enough.
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Old 05-8-2011, 02:12 AM   #15
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

This poll is kind of hard to really decide on just because everyone usually does both when they are in argument. If you think about it, when you're in an argument the other person is trying to prove and defend their point as well while they fight against yours, so it goes back and forth between the two choices constantly as more points are brought up.
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Old 05-8-2011, 02:17 AM   #16
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i'm usually defensive
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i defend myself
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Old 05-8-2011, 03:40 AM   #18
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

It's kind of hard to say what I do more often, but I guess I'm more "aggressive" in arguing. I wouldn't say "attack the person for faults", though, as much as "try to show why their argument/idea isn't valid". When someone's really stubborn, I tend to feel that defending my own points won't do much good, because they're not going to be convinced if their own points still hold, and I certainly don't need convincing.
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Default Re: Random Poll: Argumentative "behavior."

I take an aggressive stance on certain issues in where I know I'm right and the person has made a blatantly untrue statement. Often this happens in political discussions, as government is my education and I'm pretty informed. I'll attack basically any belief thats completely unfounded hence my stances in the Osama threads. :P
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