Is BlackOps Really That Bad To People?

[MrGiggles]

lol I'm watching the Doom post-mortem in the GDC vault right now and the alpha graphics look like steaming turds

turns out it was the first game to use BSP trees, which is news to me.

[Mechablob]

It's all preference, really. I prefer Call Of Duty: Black Ops, myself, but if people enjoy the older games, then to each their own.

[kommisar]

what most fps games lack nowadays is raw gameplay. the simplicity of the game and potential to get really good from practicing strats and spam spots in cs maps was what made 1.6 awesome. the feel of the game overall is better, the gun handling more fluent, faster and the aiming isn't bothered by stupid details such as mouse acceleration and stupid irl influences (fatigue while running, split vision/blur while flashed, etc.)

I think that's the main issue with fps games these days. too much detail and less raw gameplay

[fido123]

LJRox: You're so incredibly biased it's unbelievable and you're being a biggot. I've invested many hours into both CS, CSS, and MW1-2, and I can tell you I enjoy MW1-2 FAR more than CS. Sure, you might like CS more and I can completely understand why. The community is far better, and other point you've brought up is right too, but MW has far more realistic physics, and completely different gameplay. The graphics are also nicer which is defiantly another reason as to why I like it more but the way people talk about it make it seem like if a game has good graphics it must be shit because the "games bak in da day" were good and didn't need good graphics. Not everybody obviously likes what makes MW different than CS so they'll end up playing CS, I'd be just as retarded as you shithead elitists if I didn't think so.

You CS elitists need to get off your high horse and stop thinking like ****ing retarded 9 year olds.

[korny]

Doom 1, 2, and goldeneye were the only good fps games anyway guys.

[fido123]

What about Perfect Dark T_T?

[ddr_f4n]

Originally Posted by korny

Doom 1, 2, and goldeneye were the only good fps games anyway guys.

Originally Posted by fido123

What about Perfect Dark T_T?

The real FPS games <3

[korny]

Perfect dark was good too just didn't play it as often.

[condoct]

This no longer about black ops.

[welsh_girl]

I like BLOPS, and MW2 and the others.

You know, anything to keep me busy until Portal 2.

Also -Games section?

[kommisar]

Originally Posted by fido123

LJRox: You're so incredibly biased it's unbelievable and you're being a biggot. I've invested many hours into both CS, CSS, and MW1-2, and I can tell you I enjoy MW1-2 FAR more than CS. Sure, you might like CS more and I can completely understand why. The community is far better, and other point you've brought up is right too, but MW has far more realistic physics, and completely different gameplay. The graphics are also nicer which is defiantly another reason as to why I like it more but the way people talk about it make it seem like if a game has good graphics it must be shit because the "games bak in da day" were good and didn't need good graphics. Not everybody obviously likes what makes MW different than CS so they'll end up playing CS, I'd be just as retarded as you shithead elitists if I didn't think so.

You CS elitists need to get off your high horse and stop thinking like ****ing retarded 9 year olds.

we're bringing up points as to why cs is better in our opinion, no need to get all butthurt. if you look at big gaming tournaments, the main fps has consistently been cs 1.6 (eswc, wcg, cpl, esl, esea, etc) and the largest prizes are usually in the same game.

[AsphyxZero]

Originally Posted by fido123

defiantly.

idk why but I definitely went straight for this word and disregarded your entire post

[ninjaKIWI]

Originally Posted by welsh_girl

I like BLOPS, and MW2 and the others.

You know, anything to keep me busy until Portal 2.

Also -Games section?

Ahhhhhhh yes. It looks so good, I don't know how Valve continues to constantly amaze me. Have you seen the new advertisements that Valve has made for it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYD7JuRMTFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VNagjy-oeU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsQQSUEeiFY

[MrGiggles]

Valve is a shining gem in the rancid cesspool of the video game industry.

When is the last time they did something wrong? I can usually name something recent a dev/publisher has done to make people mad, but Valve's recent record seems conspicuously impeccable.

fake edit: oh right episode 3/valve time nevermind
real edit: also ricochet sucks but I got it for free since I bought HL1 before steam was released so w/e

[ninjaKIWI]

Valve time doesn't really bother me, to be honest. I'd rather extremely good games be released late than broken terrible games that hardly work be released on time.

[fido123]

Originally Posted by AsphyxZero

idk why but I definitely went straight for this word and disregarded your entire post

Disregarding posts over typos makes your points valid.

Originally Posted by kommisar

we're bringing up points as to why cs is better in our opinion, no need to get all butthurt. if you look at big gaming tournaments, the main fps has consistently been cs 1.6 (eswc, wcg, cpl, esl, esea, etc) and the largest prizes are usually in the same game.

I just have a problem when people say stuff like "X is better than Y and if you believe anything else you're a retarded noob". I really don't like elitism.

[LJRoX]

Get real, Black Ops is a casual user friendly FPS.
ADS makes everything so much easier.

Sure the graphics are better, but that doesn't mean anything in the world of competition. TBH, it's the skill involved. Bet you didn't know that?
That's the reason why people love 1.6 more than Black Ops.
too much variety in a FPS is an FPS killer.



Less variety = good, simple, map. 4 - 6 weapons mostly used (Famas and Galil are included since it's like sorta saving)
Lessens the counters, you can kill everyone with a deagle one hit, so it's really up to skill if you can nail 5 1deags in a row.
Also, it tightens the play down to strategies. M4 is the best wallbanger and AK rapes long distances with tapping the button down. Glocks are amazing with stopping power and awps are momentum busters (kill one person with awp, ppl get fucced). Grenades are like heaven in Eco rounds. You get the nade down right, you got yourself at least 2-3 kills tops, no less... If you shoot right.

Can I do this with black ops? NO BCUZ THERES a FUCCEN CLAYMORE in my way or a motion sensor that ruins my plan.
We don't need a HUD telling us where the enemies are when we got sound, the most important aspect in ANY FPS. Don't argue with me on this one.

[LJRoX]

We don't need equipment to do the job for us. That's why we save up and buy guns to fight with. Money is a very important aspect in CS 1.6 as it really dims down to getting the right guns. You don't call spots in Black Ops like 1.6 because everyone runs like a pubstar wannabe in a random S&D as opposed to a PUG lol which is kinda equivalent.

Also, 1.6 does require mad reflexes because you're already firing rather than bringing up ADS to shoot em unless you're camping.
Especially with the AWP, hard gun to master if you don't have good reflexes, especially with flicking your mouse.
Also, I don't think anyone practices recoil reduction on any Call of Duty, it's ridiculous. You die in 2-3 hits anywhere you shoot so the head doesn't really matter.

It matters so much on 1.6 because one spray can eliminate one whole team in front of you.
If you don't believe me, a proper spray will guarantee ALL headshots or perhaps at least 3/5 headshots on a team because depending on the area hit, the chest and head are mostly affected.
Go watch a video like SK SpawN wallbanging inferno or like dust2 A tunnel ace.

A regular spray (noob sprays in pubs) would probably kill one or two if lucky but miss everywhere (if you're in a gay spot). In Black Ops, your bullets are all controlled, it doesn't go everywhere and your aim down sensitivity doesn't move as fast as if you were hipfiring. So all in all, I considered both aspects for spraying down a weapon and I've got to say CS 1.6 has much more of a harder curve to play on (to be able to master spraying). Do you see anyone stopstrafing and bursting in any Call of Duty? no because you can spray them down from a long distance.
Also, it's really hard to relieve the recoil using a controller. You'd need a mouse and to be able to master random patterns of spray takes time. But in reality CoD has it easier and simplified. easier to spray, less recoil... and it tells you that you hit the person.
To be able to tell you are lit (red hp, lower than 25) changes gameplay so much because one bullet to the chest is instadeath and if you peek wrong, you'll die pretty much.

Do you do any fake defuses in Call of Duty? Like ever, the time you let go of the bomb is when you'll get shot regardless.
Do you use smokes? Oh wait you guys were busy using stun grenades instead. Yeah see? You can't use all of your grenades. Instead the army puts a limit on your usage of grenades.
Do you aim for the head? Oh wait no I won't ask this question.
Do you wallbang? Nope u can't do a proper wallbang on Black Ops. Not as well as CS 1.6. Huge gameplay involved in wallbanging. That's why there are well known wallbang spots in CS.
Do you hold spots? In a random pub it's more of "find the other team before they find you"
Idc about GB or MLG because it's a shitty league.


No one comes up with a flashbang smoke nade strat in Call of Duty in any S&D compared to a PUG.

We also have proper servers to play on too.
Ever heard of interpolation? That's basically like the most important setting there is for your config.

Black Ops has the worst interp out of all Call of Duties and shitty hit registry which is why I would never play it competitively.

[LJRoX]

And in PUGs, you are usually playing with ppl you don't know, basically the same thing in S&D. Usually it's much more strategic because everyone plays their spots.

If I told a random pub S&D whore to call strats, they'll be like "Wtf r u talking about? Strategy? Wut r u... GB?"

and Gamebattles and MLG is pretty shit anyways.

K I'm done owning ur arguments. Repeated once again
everything is true fact. Believe it or ur a retard teeeeheeehehehehehhe. /elite
Call of Duty took me 1 day to start getting 3.00 KDs on lol like every game, be it that we lose badly lol.

[welsh_girl]

Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

Ahhhhhhh yes. It looks so good, I don't know how Valve continues to constantly amaze me. Have you seen the new advertisements that Valve has made for it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYD7JuRMTFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VNagjy-oeU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsQQSUEeiFY

Yup! Hilarious
Valve should make some mini-film, it would be amazing.

Valve never dissapoint me, I've never been let down by any of their games. I guess I can now be called a Valve fangirl.