Suicide.

[mhss1992]

Originally Posted by 5.points

Would about people with drug addictions?

My aunt was severely addicted to narcotics and went through several rehab programs and none helped her. When she committed suicide she left a short note about how the drugs were going to kill her anyway. Drugs that are dangerously addictive can bring any strong minded person down to nothing. Once you've gone so far, you're literally left with nothing, no money, no friends, no one wants to be around you, you most likely never to get a job, no self confidence whatsoever.

I know that things like drug addictions start with the foolish action to start but what I'm trying to say is that suicide is caused by more just depression and sadness.

How exactly does that not qualify into the things I described?
She decided to commit duicide because she believed that there was no hope left, thinking it was pointless to keep trying.

[5.points]

Originally Posted by mhss1992

How exactly does that not qualify into the things I described?
She decided to commit duicide because she believed that there was no hope left, thinking it was pointless to keep trying.

What I was trying to say is there are understandable reasons. In your post when you say how suicides are when people see their pain as not worth enduring and it's pretty much from "stupid reasons" you seem to not understand when kind of pain these people go through.

I completely agree that a fair share of suicides are from people who give up easily, but humans can only take so much pain, sometimes suicide can seem so tempting. Its something you wont understand until you actually get that low.

[mhss1992]

Originally Posted by 5.points

What I was trying to say is there are understandable reasons. In your post when you say how suicides are when people see their pain as not worth enduring and it's pretty much from "stupid reasons" you seem to not understand when kind of pain these people go through.

I completely agree that a fair share of suicides are from people who give up easily, but humans can only take so much pain, sometimes suicide can seem so tempting. Its something you wont understand until you actually get that low.

Suicide is the easy choice. I believe it's always possible to improve the situation somehow... Unless I became tetraplegic. I guess I'd rather die in this particular case. That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid decision, though... Who knows what one could still intellectually achieve in this situation?

Originally Posted by Yieldsign

and here's my stance:

regardless of whether or not suicide is selfish, it is always acceptable/permissible, and our legislation should reflect that. in the end, there is only one person who has control over his own life, and that is himself.

i think the implications of prohibiting suicide are frightening. you're essentially legislating "psychological harm" which is, at least for NOW, far too dubious and arbitrary to incorporate into law in such a manner.

I have to agree.

However, there are some bad circumstances... What if the person wants to commit suicide due to some crazy religious belief or some lie other people convinced them of? What if they're at a really altered mental state when they make this decision? They could look back (if still alive) and realize how absurd it was.

It's not a simple matter...

[5.points]

Originally Posted by mhss1992

Suicide is the easy choice. I believe it's always possible to improve the situation somehow... Unless I became tetraplegic. I guess I'd rather die in this particular case. That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid decision, though... Who knows what one could still intellectually achieve in this situation?

It's unlikely that you'll achieve anything intellectual while addicted to narcotics and nothing to your name.

I completely agree with what you're saying, you just don't seem to be looking at all the circumstances. You say you would rather die then be tetraplegic? That's exactly what I was saying.

[mhss1992]

Originally Posted by 5.points

It's unlikely that you'll achieve anything intellectual while addicted to narcotics and nothing to your name.

Yeah, well, I was talking about the tetraplegic case.

[5.points]

Originally Posted by mhss1992

Yeah, well, I was talking about the tetraplegic case.

But it's still unlikely that you would even survive in the case which I stated.

Also, in the case I stated, starting the addiction was the "stupid decision", suicide was the result.