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Old 12-7-2010, 03:10 PM   #1
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I know its been a great day, but there was something that really set me off today. I kept it to myself mostly, but it's bugged me alot from time to time, and I know it bugs a few of my friends so I'm gonna go on a rant here.



Respect. Most of you, I assume, know what that is. The question is, do you show it? And don;t even jump to a straight yes. think about it for a second. I don;t mean people you like, I mean most people in general. It takes more heart to respect someone you don't know, and even more to respect someone you don't agree with or don't get along with. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine. However, we should realize that our opinions are not more important than the next person, and we are free to share our opinions but not shove them down other people's throats.



Instance 1- There are two of my friends quarreling. It had gotten quite out of hand for no reason. whatever, i'm not getting in the middle. So therefore, I don;t want to be dragged in. Or here this or that about the other person. I am perfectly capable of coming to my own conclusions about people. What you tell me about someone isn't going to change my mind about them, I am going to find out for myself, give everyone an equal chance. Which brings me to instance 2



Instance 2. Girls and their standards. Now this is slightly more vague and slightly more personal, but I'm sick and tired of all your stupid standards. I mean, yeah, I know their are guys out their, that are douchey that only care about that ass or what the **** ever. And to me that is vile. I am not into porn. I am not into smacking that hoe or some other stupid guy stereotypical ****. I treat woman with respect, go out of my way to make them feel happy, just like I do for anyone else. Sometimes, i don;t even have to know you, I'll still go out on a limb. It really pisses me off when I hear girls make fun of guys, or quote 'they have standards'. I'm sorry. Did I ask to look like this? Noooo. Are you really so shallow as to only care what I look like instead of liking me for my personality? Yeah I thought so. You are a hypocrite. You say you hate when guys do that to you, but you'll sit there and do it to the rest of us, well deserving guys. I'm tired of people having their pick of guys, choosing the dumb douchebags after douchebags, and then complaining, to me nonetheless of how they want a nice guy in their life and oh how can they ever find one. **** you. If you cant open your eyes then you dont deserve happiness. I can honestly say I would give anyone a chance. I would willingly date anyone, get to know them and judge from there. Things change in a relationship. I know there are always friends, but sometimes the rules of the game change while being romantic. But ****, everyone always think they know everything.



Bottom line, you're all shallow. I'm disappointed. Their are plenty of deserving guys, a lot of us that spend alot of time alone, listening to you tell us about your hard days, about your family issues, lending an ear and a heart. Sometimes we long for more.



Second bottom line. Respect everyone. Respect my friends, and respect those that have it harder than you. They have feeling too. I dont care if you have standards. Stop being dumb.
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Old 12-7-2010, 03:23 PM   #2
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Just a quick note: proofread your post before you hit the submit button, there's tons of semicolons where there should be apostrophes and a couple "their"s where there should be "there"s.

Appears to me that you're blowing off steam about a specific event and trying to cover it up with a few paragraphs of general thought. (I'm assuming this because of the notably long second paragraph which contains a few curse words in it.)

That aside, respect means different things to different people. To me, respect is giving someone a fair shot at everything they choose to do. If you're involved in an argument, you need to be bi-partisan, instead of just locked in to your own beliefs. If you're one-sided, you'll be disrespecting others' beliefs. Interrupting someone in the middle of their sentence is extremely rude and disrespectful, which also makes you a bigot.

tl;dr: being respectful = being fair
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Old 12-7-2010, 03:24 PM   #3
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It's in Chit Chat, not CT. Grammar Nazis do not belong here.
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Old 12-7-2010, 03:29 PM   #4
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It's the FFR forums. Usage of correct grammar is in the rules.

Secondly, This type of thread belongs in CT if the OP wants a serious discussion and no trolls.
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Old 12-7-2010, 03:35 PM   #5
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I think everyone has been disrespected and discriminated against at some point or another by people of both the same and opposite sex based on their appearance.
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Reason two has nothing to do with respect. Reason two has to do with most females inabilities to look past someone's exterior. Your sake of reason two is being a gentleman..

Females were raised to this mainly, " He's picking on me boo hoo. Well, it's because he likes you" the mother or other girlfriend would have probably said. So, that's my thought on the main reason females like the douchey guys. As for Reason one, that's just you being uncomfortable with friends fighting, because if they were TRUE friends you'd jump right in and try to save their friendship. Actually reason one there would be no respect involved, " Respect: an act of giving particular attention" so that'd be a lack of since you're staying out of it completely.
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Honestly I think women are much more likely to be in a relationship with a less attractive guy than a guy is to be with an unattractive girl. A see a bunch of very pretty girls running around with overweight disheveled looking men, but overweight women are like off limits. Women, while shallow to a degree, are still mostly interested in the cocky confident guy. Yes, they like douche bags, but it really has less to do with appearance. Being good looking is definitely a plus in any situation, but a wishy washy handsome guy is less likely to score the chick than the loud obnoxious douche at the part even if he is 250+lbs of beer.
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Honestly I think women are much more likely to be in a relationship with a less attractive guy than a guy is to be with an unattractive girl. A see a bunch of very pretty girls running around with overweight disheveled looking men
DAMMIT I wish this was true for me.
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Honestly I think women are much more likely to be in a relationship with a less attractive guy than a guy is to be with an unattractive girl. A see a bunch of very pretty girls running around with overweight disheveled looking men, but overweight women are like off limits. Women, while shallow to a degree, are still mostly interested in the cocky confident guy. Yes, they like douche bags, but it really has less to do with appearance. Being good looking is definitely a plus in any situation, but a wishy washy handsome guy is less likely to score the chick than the loud obnoxious douche at the part even if he is 250+lbs of beer.
only if the less attractive guy has lots of money and status, of course the guy will think hes the ****ing man for pulling a sexy girl but hes really the goof and a sucker
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Old 12-7-2010, 04:16 PM   #12
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I dont respect people who dont respect me.
Plain and simple.
Why should I respect those who look down on me and condescend me other than the god I dont believe in and karma?
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Old 12-7-2010, 04:23 PM   #13
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Honestly I think women are much more likely to be in a relationship with a less attractive guy than a guy is to be with an unattractive girl. A see a bunch of very pretty girls running around with overweight disheveled looking men, but overweight women are like off limits. Women, while shallow to a degree, are still mostly interested in the cocky confident guy. Yes, they like douche bags, but it really has less to do with appearance. Being good looking is definitely a plus in any situation, but a wishy washy handsome guy is less likely to score the chick than the loud obnoxious douche at the part even if he is 250+lbs of beer.
Yeah. But that isn't really the case for self-respecting girls; Which, in my opinion at least, are the only types of girls worthy of dating. Usually girls attracted to loud, cocky, douchebags are the same types of girls who are destined to end up miserable for the rest of their lives because they don't know what they want in a guy.. They're the type of girls that go through multiple divorces, and are constantly having relationship troubles. Most of them tend to look past the genuine qualities in a person and focus more on things such as the size of a guy's ego, bank account, and.. other "things".. and they wonder why they can't find happiness. I say you remain patient, and avoid girls like that. They're fun in the short run, but in the long run, they definitely aren't worth your time.
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I agree that it sounded like I was generalizing. Not all women like the douche bags, and not all women will go anywhere near an overweight guy.

What people need to realize is that you aren't going to like 99% of people that you come into contact, but you just have to keep looking. The right girl/guy is out there for everyone. I don't believe there is only one person for everyone, but I do think that it is very difficult to find at least one of them.

Also, just realized I got a tad too romantic for this forum. *facepalm*
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Old 12-7-2010, 04:34 PM   #15
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I had a hard time reading the OP's post with so much vagina in the way.

You sound like the typical "nice guy" who isn't really all that nice, but rather passive-aggressive and self-entitled. Girls who continue to get hurt by "douchebags" are not the kind of girls you want to date anyway. Bang, sure. Date, no. Douchebags tend to have success because they're interesting/fun in some way (aka they have a damn backbone). At least a douchebag is upfront about his lack of respect. "Nice guys" are underhanded, dishonest, boring, replacable, and forgettable.

People aren't shallow just because they won't date you.
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alot of ffr comments commended as being strongly vaginal which bothers some men
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OP sounds just like me, except that I only treat women with respect unless they deserve it, same thing with men, I treat both genders equally (cept the love and secks part lmao). And if they don't deserve it but I still treat them with respect, that just means I want her to ride mah horsey.
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I like being disrespectful to pretty much everyone I don't know/don't care about. Hell if I care. Life isn't all rainbows and pixie dust, if people act like assholes or bitches (such as me) then let 'em do it. Who cares? No one is forcing you to talk to those people. Just stay away and it'll be okay.
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I'd really like to know what's so hard about being a "nice guy" or about being overall respectful to women here. I mean:

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I mean, yeah, I know their are guys out their, that are douchey that only care about that ass or what the **** ever. And to me that is vile. I am not into porn. I am not into smacking that hoe or some other stupid guy stereotypical ****. I treat woman with respect, go out of my way to make them feel happy, just like I do for anyone else.
And I see absolutely nothing wrong with that - going out of your way to give someone that you care about (or are attempting to care about) at least shows that you have a heart. It also shows that you want respect given back to you. There's a difference between wanting respect given to you, and getting stepped on by someone though; if there's no boundaries set, you're going to end up treating someone too nice and you'll never get anything in return.

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Sometimes, i don;t even have to know you, I'll still go out on a limb. It really pisses me off when I hear girls make fun of guys, or quote 'they have standards'. I'm sorry. Did I ask to look like this? Noooo. Are you really so shallow as to only care what I look like instead of liking me for my personality? Yeah I thought so. You are a hypocrite.
Now hold on a minute. If you're all about respect, why are you getting entirely upset at the fact that a woman is demeaning you or chastising you just because they don't fit to what your "ideal" woman is? There's nothing stopping you from having set standards in what you see in a girl. In fact, you responding the way you did shows that you want someone who looks at you for who you are, and while it may not seem like it, that too is a standard.

If you don't care for females who look at you for your looks because they want someone who is physically attractive, then don't adhere to these standards that you so adamantly disagree about. Calling them a hypocrite for viewing things differently than you makes you look that much more like a jerk - it shows that you don't care for what their reasons are for why they are that way...

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You say you hate when guys do that to you, but you'll sit there and do it to the rest of us, well deserving guys. I'm tired of people having their pick of guys, choosing the dumb douchebags after douchebags, and then complaining, to me nonetheless of how they want a nice guy in their life and oh how can they ever find one. **** you.
...and again, it goes back to who you have chosen, which is entirely your choice. If you're being open about who you're with, telling them (or showing them) that you want to be with they for who they are, and they don't care for showing you the same "respect", then leave them.

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If you cant open your eyes then you dont deserve happiness. I can honestly say I would give anyone a chance. I would willingly date anyone, get to know them and judge from there. Things change in a relationship. I know there are always friends, but sometimes the rules of the game change while being romantic. But ****, everyone always think they know everything.
How is that fair? You do realize that some people (both male and female) have certain things they refuse to change because of something that may have happened to them in the past (or because of an insecurity)? If they feel that they can't connect with certain men on a personal level, why should they be deemed to live in anguish and sadness for the rest of their lives? It may not entirely be their fault that they act a specific way, and telling them to deal with it is entirely unfair. Being that you understand enough to say that you would give anyone a chance, you should also be aware of that fact that giving someone a chance may involve a mindset change from yourself, otherwise you'll never connect with your significant other on a personal level.

There's no reason for anyone to tell you how to do anything, regardless of how confident or sure this person may sound. Go with how you feel.
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