Agnosticism vs Atheism and Religions

[mhss1992]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

I fear our language differences make these discussions difficult and strained. At the same time I feel like if you don't agree, you just don't agree. I require physical evidence and reasoned logic for my claims of truth, and I say "I don't know" otherwise. That's the way I operate, and you may operate differently.

I don't remember claiming something when there was no evidence in this thread. I'm honestly trying to make sense here. I try hard to be honest to myself and to other people. Was the rest of that post really that hard to address directly? Did I say some sort of nonsense?

I admit that I often feel that same about you disagreeing. In fact, I get the feeling that everyone with different convictions than mine try very hard to convince themselves that they're right even when I'm almost sure that they will change their minds. Maybe I do that, too.
However, I tend to think better and change in the long term. I've changed a lot in the past 4 years. I still don't think I have a good reason to consider myself wrong right now, though.

Much like the case with God, we have to start bending over backwards to justify "possibilities" when we have mountains of evidence that already point to some pretty clear conclusions -- in a much stronger fashion than even the analogy I gave. It may very well be true that the friend died of natural causes an instant before the gun was fired, meaning that the assailant just shot an already-dead person... but it's a very improbable thing and it doesn't help to assume that this is the case when everything else is considered.

You also seem to think that the existence of God would automatically disprove several known theories used to describe our universe, as if they're mutually exclusive. Which ones, exactly? What would be the equivalent to the evidences from the analogy you mentioned and why is it so strong?

I have to mention the possibilities again. There are several ones that are perfectly friendly to everything that we know about our universe. So, yeah, there are probably tons of evidences against many of these possibilities, but not all of them.

Please remember that I am not trying to *prove* the existence of God. That's not what this thread is about.