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Old 11-23-2010, 04:16 PM   #41
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Nuclear weapons oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

in all srsness:Nohing should come of this (hopefully) although if it did, SK has more allies then NK does (even if it does have China)
I thought China was a SK ally O.o
Anyways, back into reality. Nuclear weapons don't prove nothing. All it proves is that you have no other way to win so might as well cheat. During WWII, the U.S. had a reason to use them but now NK has no specific reason why they should start nuke threats.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:55 PM   #42
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Why do people keep saying North Korea doesn't stand a chance in a war situation "even if China is their ally?"

Think about this, all of South Korea's allies, such as the US and wherever else, are all way more diplomatic than China. China controls the world economy, and they're a communist nation. That said, they very well might be itching to get in a fight. While the US and Japan and all the other "free-world" countries are trying to do peace talks and cease fires, China will be revving their engines (as soon as they figure it's bad enough for them to get into.)
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:57 PM   #43
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i know, the west struggle with afghan peasents
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:00 PM   #44
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Why do people keep saying North Korea doesn't stand a chance in a war situation "even if China is their ally?"

Think about this, all of South Korea's allies, such as the US and wherever else, are all way more diplomatic than China. China controls the world economy, and they're a communist nation. That said, they very well might be itching to get in a fight. While the US and Japan and all the other "free-world" countries are trying to do peace talks and cease fires, China will be revving their engines (as soon as they figure it's bad enough for them to get into.)
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:15 PM   #45
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China is an ally of north korea? For some reason I find this hard to believe.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:19 PM   #46
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Their both Communist
Just because they are communist doesn't mean they both have to be allies.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:25 PM   #47
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China is an ally of north korea? For some reason I find this hard to believe.
Lol of course it is. However, China doesn't have the sort of I-thumb-my-nose-at-you disrespect to the world as N. Korea does. China doesn't necessarily defend N. Korea but more often just tells both sides of the conflict to "settle down". Which really doesn't solve anything.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:28 PM   #48
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China is an ally of north korea? For some reason I find this hard to believe.
They're allies, but in a very loose sense. China is like the big brother and North Korea is like its mentally unstable little brother who occasionally beats off in public. China will step in and occasionally try to calm the waters... but if the **** ever hit the fan, you can bet that China isn't going to ruin its relationship with the US for Korea.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:44 PM   #49
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Despite the big dispute China had with the U.S. most recently? For what it's worth, if China were to get involved, WW3 would be massive. The U.S. already is in somewhat of a bad state still with certain countries because of what Bush did to the U.N.. In my opinion, if China gets involved, we should worry heavily.... Between China having the largest military in the world overpowering the U.S. it would be endless and Vietnam all over again. The U.S. simply cannot afford to have China step in, it would kill our country and economy much further than it already is.
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Lol of course it is. However, China doesn't have the sort of I-thumb-my-nose-at-you disrespect to the world as N. Korea does. China doesn't necessarily defend N. Korea but more often just tells both sides of the conflict to "settle down". Which really doesn't solve anything.
I guess I should have said that I find it hard to believe that china would be willing to go to war for north korea. They seem to be starting **** for no reason.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:49 PM   #51
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Yeah, I don't think that's the case. China might not like to criticize N. Korea, but it's certainly not going to go into a war to support N. Korea's cause.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:11 PM   #52
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like alot of troubles in the world they would be over sooner if americans kept out of it
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:15 PM   #53
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like alot of troubles in the world they would be over sooner if americans kept out of it
Ouch. Whatever your opinion of America, if you are going to say something like that you should say "America" not "Americans". American citizens don't decide where our military points its guns.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:18 PM   #54
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well obviously he's not saying all americans


in a way americans is more exclusive because america sort of implies "the country" whereas americans implies those people who get involved
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Really? Because I interpreted it as the exact opposite.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:38 PM   #56
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ITT: non-Korean people bickering about China & America's potential involvement


NK's not stupid enough to just nuke SK - NK's primary motivation for these provocations is to get some sort of financial, material, or diplomatic advantage by coercion, which has been the pattern for quite some time
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Despite the big dispute China had with the U.S. most recently? For what it's worth, if China were to get involved, WW3 would be massive. The U.S. already is in somewhat of a bad state still with certain countries because of what Bush did to the U.N.. In my opinion, if China gets involved, we should worry heavily.... Between China having the largest military in the world overpowering the U.S. it would be endless and Vietnam all over again. The U.S. simply cannot afford to have China step in, it would kill our country and economy much further than it already is.
you are... words can't describe. lol almost everything about this is wrong

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well obviously he's not saying all americans


in a way americans is more exclusive because america sort of implies "the country" whereas americans implies those people who get involved
"America" is a metonymy for the government of America, so i don't think this is really a valid interpretation
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well whatever either one doesnt imply -all americans- to me
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north korea is fubar
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:06 PM   #60
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north korea is fubar
yeah that place probably won't hit 20'th century living standards for another couple of centuries.
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