Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[i love you]

Wait Jimerax, i still have to submit my notes. Give me 30 more minutes.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

free time does not qualify you for the back up position it just means you have free time.

Not trying to be mean but seriously why do people assume that just because you have free time that automatically qualifies you to judge files?

I think Plan and Bob_bob judged files on DF, so they do have experience, not quite sure though.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

I think Plan and Bob_bob judged files on DF, so they do have experience, not quite sure though.

The only people on DF that judged files were myself, AJ and Carlos

[who_cares973]

nope only people who judge files for DF is halogen, psychoangel and myself

ninja'd

[Superfreak04]

Ah, okay.

[TC_Halogen]

Carlos.

You. Me. Eclipse (Luna). NOW.

[bob bob]

i only judged stuff for step wars, nothing else lol

[psychoangel691]

Step wars was a community vote not really "judging" though.

[i love you]

[Rebound Notes] (Judging for Nsane)

Mathematics [Vote4Nixon]

Playtesting: After playing this file, i thought the file flowed well with the song however it starts to drag on due to the song being repetitive. Perhaps a short cut?
Editor: m1-m8 seems fine but then once you got to m9-m13, you suddenly make it under-layered. m13-end, this is where the song gets repetitive so i recommend you to change up patterns for each repeat and to slowly incorporate more instruments and the song progresses to keep the file interesting.
Overall: I think this file was good for the most part but i would consider either cutting the file or editing the patterns so that you give a different aspect of layering during the repetitive parts. [+?]

No Running Water [who_cares973]

Playtesting: This file felt very smooth and had a lot of flow. Something i would expect from Carlos. :')
Editor: Nothing major but i think the file should just end at m41 with a jump since that's where the music literally stops.
Overall: [] I think this file would make a great easy file for FFR. [+]

Perseverance (RuSHeR Remix) [customstuff]

Playtesting: This file had a lot of awkward patterns and other stuff that was completely unnecessary like those random streams you added in the file and that 32nd staircase at the beginning of the file. Also, the file dragged on because of the file itself and the song being so repetitive.
Editor
- m6: Why did you add 32nd to a sound that barely audible?
- m9: Where does that 192nd and 48th note go to?
- m10-11: No need for jumpjacks, just make these single 16ths.
- m12-m18: Patterns were decent for the most part but those jumpjacks ruin the flow of your layering.
- m19: Bad PR on rolls. Getting rid of the beginning jack and PR the sound will fix this section.
- m21-24: More PR problems...
- m25-28: Why did you put jacks that doesn't follow the flow of the music?
- m29-36: Layer in the drums and those 24th double trills should be 32nds.
- m39-52: Why did you suddenly step some random, under-layered stream with patterns that doesn't make sense at all when you can clearly hear other things going on?
- m53-54: More gay jacks especially that last long one.
- m58-m71: A lot of inconsistencies and under-layering. Not to mention repetitive again.
- m72: What's up with that random roll and that one 12th note?
- m73-end: Repetitive; horrible color placements; more inconsistent layering and more gay jacks.
Overall: File has a lot of errors and it needs fixing. Not to mention that the song choice sucked. [-]

Pokémon [tj28]

Playtesting: This file felt really empty and started to drag on once those trills started to kick in. Very boring.
Editor
- m2-m4: PR gets off by a tad bit.
- m5: You didn't follow the melody properly.
- m6: What's up with the silence?
- m7: Lost track of the melody again.
- m13-m14: Either PR this section or put mini jacks on the bass piano since you can clearly hear it.
- m19-m24: Fixing PR and removing that random stream between m22-m24 and stepping with the music would make this section look a lot better.
- m25-28: There's more going on in this part, you might want to listen carefully.
- m31: I would add in those single 4th notes since it feels a bit unfinished here.
- m32: Add in those base piano sounds in the background.
Overall: File might be decent for an easy file but it has errors and needs improvements. [-]

Prokofiev - Etude No.2 [SKG_Scintill]

Playtesting: This file was pretty fun and definitely something i would replay for sure.
Editor: m16-m20: Small PR issues in minor parts.
Overall: Nice, calm, and re-playable. [+]

Pure Ruby [TC_Cyrenics]

Playtesting: This file just felt out of whack. Very inconsistent layering, poor pattern choices, and a lot of awkward/unnecessary notes. Needs work.
Editor
m7: PR issue
m13: Those 24th notes were not needed at all. Remove them completely.
m22: Those 16th notes are not dominant so i would remove those.
m34-m39: Continue stepping the percussion here. It'll keep it more consistent.
m51: You're missing some jumps here. Might want to recheck.
Overall: File has potential but it needs fixes. [+.]

Radiant Moonlight [Bluearrowll]

Playtesting: This file was just PR invested. Felt like you were focusing way too much on the PR perfection and not on the overall feel of the file. Also, it felt quite inconsistent with the jumps on some parts of the song and the pattern usage gets repetitive.
Editor
m14: Very inconsistent layering here.
m20-end: Patterns were good but gets quite repetitive and boring throughout. Try mirroring some patterns or re-adjusting so that it's semi PR.
Overall: A lot of inconsistencies that nees to be fixed not to mention the repetitive patterns. [-]

RAN [megamon88]

Playtesting: This file was pretty good. My only complaint is that some of those bursts and jumpjacks were awkward to hit. Definitely something i would like to play again.
Editor: -Blank-
Overall: A well-stepped, re-playable file that would make a great challenging file. [+]

Rondo a Capriccio [Bluearrowll]

Playtesting: I really love the PR patterns used in this file but more layering could have been done as the music progresses because the more intense parts in the music just doesn't match the feel of your steps but rather feels too plain and unfinished.
Editor: Same thing I mentioned above but i would like to add that on m116-m119, it looks inconsistent with the main piano sound.
Overall: Pretty decent file but felt a bit long. [+.]

Run Kirby Run [Xandertrax]

Playtesting: File was pretty fun for the most part. It felt like some of the jumps were used inconsistently but it's something minor.
Editor
m44-m49: Missing a lot of jumps.
m90-96: I would add more to this part since it looks empty.
Overall: Fun, decent file but i would fix what i've mentioned though. [+.]


Saikyou OX Keikaku [Stavie33]

Playtesting: *VOID*
Editor: *VOID*
Overall: This doesn't need a v2. The one already in-game is good enough. [<]

Sakura Blue Sky [SulferDragon]

Playtesting: This file was pretty good for the most part. It felt a bit empty at times though.
Editor:You're missing some 8th notes throughout the file so double check on those. Also on m22-m24, you could had added more layering here.
Overall: I still like this file. Definitely something people would play. [+.]

Shooogun [customstuff]

Playtesting: This file was decent however i noticed wrong note placements and layering inconsistencies during some parts of the song which bothered me a bit.
Editor: Throughout the file, you have many mis-rhythms and a few repetitive patterns here and there.
Overall: A lot of misplaced notes and inconsistencies. [-]

Smash Podcast [Coolboyrulez0]

Playtesting: Awesome file. Loved the pattern usage and the consistently of the file.
Editor: m17-m24: Those 16ths should be 24th gallops.
Overall: Pretty nice file. Loved the pattern usage. [+.]

Song of the Second Moon [bluguerrilla]

Playtesting: Very well made file. Definitely something i would replay. Unique song choice by the way.
Editor: -Blank-
Overall: Very well-stepped file. [+]

Sparkle Downer [npv]

Playtesting: Wow, this file was put well together and would make a great hard file.
Editor: -Blank-
Overall: Would make a nice challenging file. [+]

Take up the Cross (Euro Power Mix) -Short Version- [Vote4Nixon]

Playtesting: This file felt rather empty during some parts in the music. Also, i think there were a few rhythms that were off there and here and your pattern choice got repetitive and predictable.
Editor:Basically, there are a lot of off rhythms in this file like on m11. Also, the solo parts are way too empty. I would fill more stuff in.
Overall: You need to fix up those rhythms and off-sync patterns. [-]

The Fusion [Patashu]

Playtesting: Very well-made file. Definitely something i would replay
Editor: -Blank-
Overall: Well-stepped and re-playable. [+]

This Could've Been Nice [DarkZtar]

Playtesting: Whoa, that 16th long jack near the beginning and that wtf roll burst at the ending really caught my attention. Please make those parts more reasonable. Rest of the file was fine except some parts were awkward to hit.
Editor
m16: Don't make those jacks. Trills are more fitting.
m80: Another place you should fix those jacks
m118: Oh my god...Please fix reduce this part to make it more hittable.
Overall: Well-stepped file but i would turn down some of the patterns used to make it more re-playable. [+.]

Try to Star [DarkZtar]

Playtesting: File was pretty fun for the most part. Felt like some parts were missing though.
Editor
m48: Following the percussions would be a good idea here
m59-60: Why did it have to be a one handed trill? The gap is too much compared with the other parts in the file.
Overall: Pretty fun file but i would consider fixing those minor issues. [+.]

Voodoo People [megamon88]

Playtesting: Haha awesome file. Don't think i have a complaint on this.
Editor: I think layering it those 4th bass drums starting around m49 will keep the flow better.
Overall: Fun and re-playable. [+.]

White Walls [dore]

Playtesting: I'm not going to lie but for a long file, i find this really impressive.
Editor The only thing i found kinda iffy was on m13 with that one handed 32nd trill and that part on m340-m365 was nuts. Everything else throughout the file either had some minor PR issues or some 'hard to hit' type stuff.
Overall: I think this file is pretty good for a long file and it seems like you put a lot of effort to it. Those 32nd trills might give people some issues though. [+.]

Wolf by Night, Human in Dreams [woker-X]

Playtesting: File was decent but some parts felt repetitive and i feel that some things here and there could have been done better.
Editor
m12-m39: A lot of repeated awkward patterns that could have been changed up after it got too repetitive.
m64-m67: There is some syncopated 12th notes you could add to make the file flow better
m68-m73: There are continuous 12th notes going on in the background so i would include those
NOTE: You're missing a bunch of jumps throughout the whole file which makes this file inconsistent. You might to double check on this.
Overall: The inconsistency of this file needs work and the PR of some patterns could had been done better. [-]

Yellow Lasers [dore]

Playtesting: Haha, this file was pretty fun to play. Love the song choice as well.
Editor: -blank-
Overall: Highly re-playable file and well stepped. [+]

Yellowknife [customstuff]

Playtesting: File is highly repetitive and got boring rather quick since you didn't even attempt changing your rhythms a bit to make the file more interesting
Editor
m5-m7: What are those three notes going to?
m8-m15: You stepped m8 as triples yet you ignore them once you get between m9-m15
m16: Those 32nd trill is too long and should start at beat 63.00 as a roll rather than trills so that the rise of difficultly is so highly spiked on that one section.
m17-m31: The way you stepped this part was just so repetitive. At this point, the file is not interesting at all.
m32-End: A bunch of repeated mistakes as mention above...

Overall: Rejected. This doesn't have any stepping potential at all plus the song choice was repetitive. [-]

[who_cares973]

oh wow you went all out lmao

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PR nazi

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

free time does not qualify you for the back up position it just means you have free time.

Not trying to be mean but seriously why do people assume that just because you have free time that automatically qualifies you to judge files?

This may be true, but one who has free time can surely get the job done quicker then one who chooses to do it when they get to it. Its not like I dont know what Im doing. Just because I havent stepped anything or submitted it to SM packs or anywhere doesnt mean I dont know what Im doing, Im just too impatient to step. I have been around this game for years, I kinda know whats going on in files and such. Im not going to bothering trying to defend myself, its a backup position, I was just offering and saying that I had more then enough spare time and can help out if needed =\

[who_cares973]

quicker does not mean better. having a history stepping really helps determining someones worth a judge since it tells people how firm of a grasp they have on concepts and what not, if you dont even have files released then what do we have to go off of? also you're like the 103493 person to say you have free time so you that makes you capable of judging. so that post wasnt directed at just you but everyone who said that

[bob bob]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Step wars was a community vote not really "judging" though.

true, but i tried to make it formal

[i love you]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

quicker does not mean better. having a history stepping really helps determining someones worth a judge since it tells people how firm of a grasp they have on concepts and what not

This.

Also Jimerax, i don't think psychoangel691 should be placed as a main judge but rather more of a backup judge. She may have judged for DragonsFury but that's because she was one of the owners at the site not because she had stepping experience. She even said it herself a while back that she wasn't experienced with stepping files.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by i love you

This.

Also Jimerax, i don't think psychoangel691 should be placed as a main judge but rather more of a backup judge. She may have judged for DragonsFury but that's because she was one of the owners at the site not because she had stepping experience. She even said it herself a while back that she wasn't experienced with stepping files.

Yea I haven't stepped a lot myself mostly because I always get blocked and never finish them. Plus a lot of personal stuff had come up for a while. But that doesn't change the fact that I've looked over 100s of files and have all the knowledge needed to judge a file. I've mentioned before and I will again how much you've stepped shouldn't mean anything if you know all the correct things about stepping.

[bmah]

And now since all of the notes are posted in the batch review thread, you can compare your notes with the other reviewers.

For those of you who volunteered, thank you for doing so. It is much appreciated.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Yea I haven't stepped a lot myself mostly because I always get blocked and never finish them. Plus a lot of personal stuff had come up for a while. But that doesn't change the fact that I've looked over 100s of files and have all the knowledge needed to judge a file. I've mentioned before and I will again how much you've stepped shouldn't mean anything if you know all the correct things about stepping.

Obviously this isnt the case because I was just told that one who has stepping experience suits the position of being a judge, and if thats how it goes down, someone like Byron should be a judge far before you because he has a **** ton more experience and stepping knowledge then on who has looked over many file. I could go and download hundreds of files from bemanistyle right now and self review them, still doesnt show that im judge worthy. All in all, you should be in the back up position and byron should be a primary.

[bmah]

I currently don't have time to look at her actual notes for this batch, but why don't you confirm ot disprove that fact by noting discrepencies against the notes of other judges.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by bmah

I currently don't have time to look at her actual notes for this batch, but why don't you confirm ot disprove that fact by noting discrepencies against the notes of other judges.

Thanks bmah most of my notes were just quick ones though this time because I wanted to push this batch forward since a lot of people are anxious.

@ the stepping experience
But when it comes to stepping experience I plan on stepping a whole bunch of stuff just trying to find the right music. Carlos just sent me a song that I'm probably going to step but even without experience I feel I've shown just in the final hour alone that I have a good knowledge of things such as pr and layering and that's in one of my 1st few files. I know it's not perfect yet but I get too frustrated -_-