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Old 11-29-2009, 07:16 PM   #10
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Default Re: Metaphysics, intelligence, God

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This doesn't tell me anything. All you're saying is "my experiences and thoughts convince me. I can't tell you why. Just think about it, though." Explain why it's so strong for you -- if you're going to bring up examples like the "ceiling incident," then I'd say those are hardly "experiences" but rather common human misunderstandings of probability/causality/bias.
What happened to my uncle has nothing to do with "observer experiences". I thought it was obvious. I'll try to explain my thoughts.

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OF COURSE I can postulate that. Your response is, again, just another "maybe."... I advise you to check this concept a bit.
Ok. I read everything. And I am about to feed your monstrous pride: You're right, I was doing a mistake.

Well, yes, obviously, I know that the brain is necessary. I didn't say that I don't need my brain to live, that would be stupid. And I don't want you to doubt absolutely everything, no matter how much evidence there is, even though that's what it seemed. I don't do that. I've met people who actually do that... People who just doubt everything. They are annoying, I know.

Maybe I've been obnoxious, too. But absolutely everybody is against me, here, and I am unable to truly express the strongest thing that makes me believe in what I do.

But I still don't think you're right about everything: There are situations in which we can and should question the previous postulations, and that's exactly what happened to me.

We should return to the thing that originated this part of the discussion, the black screen thing: You said it wouldn't work because I would be ignoring physical facts, namely, the postulations you mentioned.

There is evidence that perception depends on the brain. We know that. However, when I started thinking about the space where first person experiences occur, I couldn't conceive the creation of this space, no matter how much I thought about it. It was unacceptable.
I considered the following possibility, since it seemed to make sense: While we exist in a space with a material configuration equal to this universe's, we are limited to a brain or similar object that is composed of the same matter. However, we can still not be limited to a single brain, in our entire existence. That's it.

We can now discuss the black screen, if you want to know why I am so convict of this non-creation of the observer. Of course, we can only do that if you allow yourself to question some postulations, like I did.
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