The right to cheat.

I_like_keys · 10-17-2009, 10:26 PM

As I was playing good ol' FFR today, focusing on AAAing the horrible, terrible blue-note songs spawned by the devil himself, I did what I usually do to aid my sanity: pretend I'm ****ing awesome at this game. Now, before you go and judge me, did each of you not, perhaps out of boredom or just your massive ego, imagine to be saving the world via the medium of routine or tiresome work? Did each of us not, at one point, pretend that discovering the percent yield of that one equation was to help in deactivating the bomb about to take out the Eastern seaboard? ...just me, huh?

Yes, as embarrassing and pitiful as it may sound, I like to imagine that I am the greatest at this game and that everyone is cheering me on as I clack to one hundred percent on an easy-mode song. While AAAing all the abhorrent torrents of blue vomit, I could not stray from the idea that someone could think I'm a hacker. This, of course, was an idea that I quite enjoyed. Not hacking in itself but rather the idea of being called a hacker; somewhat a compliment in my eyes as one would be so good that their skill has to be equated to that of a machine. Alas, AAAing easy songs does not necessarily require the pinnacle of skill and hacking those would more accurately label me as a pillow humping basement dweller than the Terminator of DDR.

Well, I'm not going to bore you any longer and get right to the point. At which point is it OK to cheat? Surely, I do not speak of just simply finding a "hack" on the Internet or stealing someone else's source code. I speak of crafting your own from your own knowledge and ideas. I do believe that hacking in itself is a demonstration of knowledge, critical thinking, and thus skill. Is the first card counter, the man who set the time to calculate and pour over the formulas and study the cards, not entitled to his victory? Is the man who first discovered one can thieve quarters from payphones with a simple sound not entitled to his reward?

If indeed an individual can figure a way, as long as he receives no donations from any other, not accredited the free use of his creation? I for one feel that he is free to, as it is his own wit and intellect that has brought him thus far. That is the basis of evolution and natural selection; the greatest, no matter the means, are always victorious.

tl;dr cheaters: man or ******?

NFD · 10-17-2009, 10:28 PM

So you're trying to justify cheating. That's cool.

**foilman8805** · 10-17-2009, 10:30 PM

i aaa'd all of the synthlight files. i must be a cheater.

**A2P** · 10-17-2009, 10:31 PM

ffr would be so much better without these painful pathological liars who pass themselves off as intellignet

**Coolboyrulez0** · 10-17-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by I_like_keys

Did each of you not, perhaps out of boredom or just your massive ego, imagine to be saving the world via the medium of routine or tiresome work? Did each of us not, at one point, pretend that discovering the percent yield of that one equation was to help in deactivating the bomb about to take out the Eastern seaboard? ...just me, huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by I_like_keys

I like to imagine that I am the greatest at this game and that everyone is cheering me on as I clack to one hundred percent on an easy-mode song.

Get help...

**Vanilla Mnm** · 10-17-2009, 10:39 PM

That is something you keep to yourself and discuss amongst your IM buddies or whatever you've got. Probably like 'imaginary fans' in your case or something.

TC_Starwolf · 10-17-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by I_like_keys

Blah blah blah *insert whine here*,blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah cheat? Blah blah blah, blah blah, *insert whine here*. Blah blah blah.

Blah?

Summaries help a lot, that's why I used cliff notes in high school.

leonid · 10-17-2009, 10:42 PM

lmfao who cares about getting cheered on this game

**DossarLX ODI** · 10-17-2009, 10:42 PM

lol philosophical discussion of natural rights

askl · 10-17-2009, 10:43 PM

um, anyone read that?

TC_Starwolf · 10-17-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by askl

um, anyone read that?

Yes. We're obviously having a highly intelliget debate about this.
Don't interrupt us!

**foilman8805** · 10-17-2009, 10:47 PM

john locke does not approve of this natural right

askl · 10-17-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC_Starwolf

Yes. We're obviously having a highly intelliget debate about this.
Don't interrupt us!

nice eyeliner

TC_Starwolf · 10-17-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by askl

nice eyeliner

OHMAHGAWD U HRT MI FEELINGZ.

Attempts of suicide due to this comment: 1.5
I'm giving time for the bottle of pills I just chugged to take affect.

askl · 10-17-2009, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC_Starwolf

OHMAHGAWD U HRT MI FEELINGZ.

Attempts of suicide due to this comment: 1.5
I'm giving time for the bottle of pills I just chugged to take affect.

wut

TC_Starwolf · 10-17-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by askl

wut

**DossarLX ODI** · 10-17-2009, 10:54 PM

Hey guys I just saw a youtube video with comments saying "spread is cheating"

**Superfreak04** · 10-17-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by leonid

lmfao who cares about getting cheered on this game

GO LEONID GO!
/cheers

askl · 10-17-2009, 10:58 PM

damnit im lame

MrRubix · 10-17-2009, 11:38 PM

If you have to hack to beat a game, then you're only succeeding at hacking. It doesn't make you good at the game, and pulling off a hack doesn't mean you've suddenly mastered the game, either. There's no challenge. As can be clearly seen from all the bots, FFR is incredibly easy to hack. Winning a retard's war is hardly satisfying.

It's like... PUA. You might get laid, but it doesn't mean you're actually good with women.

10-17-2009, 10:26 PM	#1
I_like_keys FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 200	The right to cheat. As I was playing good ol' FFR today, focusing on AAAing the horrible, terrible blue-note songs spawned by the devil himself, I did what I usually do to aid my sanity: pretend I'm **ing awesome at this game. Now, before you go and judge me, did each of you not, perhaps out of boredom or just your massive ego, imagine to be saving the world via the medium of routine or tiresome work? Did each of us not, at one point, pretend that discovering the percent yield of that one equation was to help in deactivating the bomb about to take out the Eastern seaboard? ...just me, huh? Yes, as embarrassing and pitiful as it may sound, I like to imagine that I am the greatest at this game and that everyone is cheering me on as I clack to one hundred percent on an easy-mode song. While AAAing all the abhorrent torrents of blue vomit, I could not stray from the idea that someone could think I'm a hacker. This, of course, was an idea that I quite enjoyed. Not hacking in itself but rather the idea of being called a hacker; somewhat a compliment in my eyes as one would be so good that their skill has to be equated to that of a machine. Alas, AAAing easy songs does not necessarily require the pinnacle of skill and hacking those would more accurately label me as a pillow humping basement dweller than the Terminator of DDR. Well, I'm not going to bore you any longer and get right to the point. At which point is it OK to cheat? Surely, I do not speak of just simply finding a "hack" on the Internet or stealing someone else's source code. I speak of crafting your own from your own knowledge and ideas. I do believe that hacking in itself is a demonstration of knowledge, critical thinking, and thus skill. Is the first card counter, the man who set the time to calculate and pour over the formulas and study the cards, not entitled to his victory? Is the man who first discovered one can thieve quarters from payphones with a simple sound not entitled to his reward? If indeed an individual can figure a way, as long as he receives no donations from any other, not accredited the free use of his creation? I for one feel that he is free to, as it is his own wit and intellect that has brought him thus far. That is the basis of evolution and natural selection; the greatest, no matter the means, are always victorious. tl;dr cheaters: man or ****?

10-17-2009, 10:28 PM	#2
NFD FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I see us on a beach down in, Mexico Age: 32 Posts: 4,715	Re: The right to cheat. So you're trying to justify cheating. That's cool. __________________

10-17-2009, 10:30 PM	#3
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 37 Posts: 5,704	Re: The right to cheat. i aaa'd all of the synthlight files. i must be a cheater.

10-17-2009, 10:31 PM	#4
A2P FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nah Age: 36 Posts: 3,127	Re: The right to cheat. ffr would be so much better without these painful pathological liars who pass themselves off as intellignet

10-17-2009, 10:39 PM	#6
Vanilla Mnm cavs Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saratoga, New York Posts: 3,258	Re: The right to cheat. That is something you keep to yourself and discuss amongst your IM buddies or whatever you've got. Probably like 'imaginary fans' in your case or something.

10-17-2009, 10:42 PM	#8
leonid I am leonid Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MOUNTAIN VIEW Age: 36 Posts: 8,080	Re: The right to cheat. lmfao who cares about getting cheered on this game __________________ Proud member of Team No

10-17-2009, 10:42 PM	#9
DossarLX ODI Batch Manager Game Manager, Song Release Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Age: 31 Posts: 14,996	Re: The right to cheat. lol philosophical discussion of natural rights

10-17-2009, 10:43 PM	#10
askl FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 19	Re: The right to cheat. um, anyone read that?

10-17-2009, 10:47 PM	#12
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 37 Posts: 5,704	Re: The right to cheat. john locke does not approve of this natural right

10-17-2009, 10:54 PM	#17
DossarLX ODI Batch Manager Game Manager, Song Release Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Age: 31 Posts: 14,996	Re: The right to cheat. Hey guys I just saw a youtube video with comments saying "spread is cheating"

10-17-2009, 10:58 PM	#19
askl FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 19	Re: The right to cheat. damnit im lame

10-17-2009, 11:38 PM	#20
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The right to cheat. If you have to hack to beat a game, then you're only succeeding at hacking. It doesn't make you good at the game, and pulling off a hack doesn't mean you've suddenly mastered the game, either. There's no challenge. As can be clearly seen from all the bots, FFR is incredibly easy to hack. Winning a retard's war is hardly satisfying. It's like... PUA. You might get laid, but it doesn't mean you're actually good with women. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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