Socialised Healthcare

**Patashu** · 08-9-2009, 08:59 PM

it sounds fair to me; pay a bit more tax for when other people are sick or injured and need to be nursed back to health to continue their job in exchange for having other people pay for your healthcare when you can't work yourself. what's the problem? the current situation with healthcare in America is atrocious. even after paying insurance premiums you're still charged insane amounts for proceedures, can be denied care for basically ad hoc reasons (the 'preexisting condition') and if you don't have a job you don't get care, even though that's when you need it most of all so you can get back on your feet and contribute to society once again. when you let healthcare be handled by for-profit ventures, it's suddenly in their best interest to help as little and charge as much as they can get away with it, and no surprise that's what happens in America in the absence of universal health care.
btw, Cuba has universal healthcare. both the USA and Cuba have the same life expectancy but Cuba spends 1/20th of the amount the USA does on healthcare. france, canada, britain etc etc have universal healthcare and they far better than the USA does in issues like this

unfortunately the healthcare reform has been emasculated so much in congress beacuse of attempts to pander to blue dogs and republicans that it basically isn't an improvement at all any more. it's even starting to be referred to as 'health insurance reform' rather than health care reform lmao. sorry America. you still need it though

edit: also, the statement that your grandfather will be killed for some drug dealer is definitely poisoning the well. it's granting a disproportionate amount of weight towards the undesirable elements of society and equating it in the mind of the reader to the tax only going towards the healthcare of these undesirable elements. be careful with statements like that. oh, and even criminals deserve human decency; criminals ARE human beings, no more or less worthy of basic rights than you or I. demonizing any man or woman forever for a crime they've commited is wrong

08-9-2009, 08:59 PM	#2
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 35 Posts: 8,609	Re: Socialism? it sounds fair to me; pay a bit more tax for when other people are sick or injured and need to be nursed back to health to continue their job in exchange for having other people pay for your healthcare when you can't work yourself. what's the problem? the current situation with healthcare in America is atrocious. even after paying insurance premiums you're still charged insane amounts for proceedures, can be denied care for basically ad hoc reasons (the 'preexisting condition') and if you don't have a job you don't get care, even though that's when you need it most of all so you can get back on your feet and contribute to society once again. when you let healthcare be handled by for-profit ventures, it's suddenly in their best interest to help as little and charge as much as they can get away with it, and no surprise that's what happens in America in the absence of universal health care. btw, Cuba has universal healthcare. both the USA and Cuba have the same life expectancy but Cuba spends 1/20th of the amount the USA does on healthcare. france, canada, britain etc etc have universal healthcare and they far better than the USA does in issues like this unfortunately the healthcare reform has been emasculated so much in congress beacuse of attempts to pander to blue dogs and republicans that it basically isn't an improvement at all any more. it's even starting to be referred to as 'health insurance reform' rather than health care reform lmao. sorry America. you still need it though edit: also, the statement that your grandfather will be killed for some drug dealer is definitely poisoning the well. it's granting a disproportionate amount of weight towards the undesirable elements of society and equating it in the mind of the reader to the tax only going towards the healthcare of these undesirable elements. be careful with statements like that. oh, and even criminals deserve human decency; criminals ARE human beings, no more or less worthy of basic rights than you or I. demonizing any man or woman forever for a crime they've commited is wrong __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png Last edited by Patashu; 08-9-2009 at 09:02 PM..

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