Driving Age

[Jam930]

Originally Posted by zildjian133

All that matters is experience. Here you get your permit at 15, license at 16... But its mainly parents faults for not giving their kids that much experience, especially my friend, he blows hardcore at driving and I want to die when I'm in the car when his parents let him drive but its only because he doesn't have the right amount of experience.... so raising the age limits wouldn't do much unless you lowered the permit limit and raised the license limit: 14yrs old for permit and 17yrs old for a license. That way you'd get experience, because when you first start driving is the least amount of time you'd get because your parents hate the fact that you're going to disregard a tree and accidentally cause your parents to buy a new car.

I just bolded what didn't make much sense to me.

...wow

You WANT to die when your friend is driving?

So you're saying:

--It's the parents fault that the kids don't get enough experience in order to regard a tree which needs to be avoided in order to prevent having them buy a new car... and by the way I want to die whenever my friend's parents let him drive.--


Well experience comes through driving... you can't have experience driving before you start driving because... that would simply be a paradox.

We should just go to driving "camp" or school for a while to get a liscence and they'll grade us over the period of a semester or something and let us loose to drive.

No offense intended. lol, you just really ran that whole thing together in a way that's hard to understand.

[Lupin_the_3rd]

I believe the driving age is fine. It's a lot less common to see an inexperienced driver randomly crash, than a drunk driver. Unless they extended the driving age past 18 (which I find ridiculous), there wouldn't be a drastic drop in car related accidents per year.

It's stupid decisions made by stupid teenagers which causes these deaths, not inexperience. Experience would certainly help, but it's not going to stop kids from speeding down a neighborhood at 70 miles an hour to impress their friends. This, and the influence of drugs are what cause most of these accidents.

[Enigma-7]

It doesnt matter how old you are. It matters wether you can actually drive or not.

[Squeek]

Enigma, that logic is extremely flawed.

Any idiot can push a pedal down a little bit and not move the wheel at all. Driving is not about that. Driving is about being able to intepret situations as they occur. You cannot do this without experience.

Also, teenage mentality will screw with your driving skills a lot. You need to grow out of that mentality and mature more before you can really learn to drive safely under any circumstance.

~Squeek

[zildjian133]

i got bolded

[The_Q]

See : Libertarian

Yep, that's my view. Screw the restriction, it's screwing with my free trade.

Q

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

The driving age needs to go up to 20 for two reasons.

1) I hate driving, and would love to have my parents cart me around for another 5 years.

2) Most american teenagers cannot be trusted with this big of a responsibility.

[Jpec07]

Keep the driving age where it's at. I just got my license and I don't want it taken away...

[CypherToorima]

I'm pretty sure that if you got your license already, they won't take it away

[Jpec07]

You're probably right. I don't see why they should increase the age, though, even if I didn't already have my license. Inexperience, while a very important thing to keep in mind, will keep people from getting their licenses at their road tests. If the examiner even sees the slightest sign of an abundance of inexperience, than the person is failed (at least that's how it works up here). Why, then are teens such bad drivers? Inexperience wouldn't cause an accident, if a person is truly inexperienced they'd get onto the road and freak out every time a red light happened. In my opinion, the number 1 cause of accidents in teenage driving outside of drugs and alcohol is pride. People my age start driving and, after trying a few of the things they were told not to do while they were learning how to drive, begin to think that on the road they are invincible (sp?). Obviously they are wrong. I push the limits sometimes; the speed limit is whatever everyone else is doing, and certain stop signs are more like "slow down so you can see if anything's coming" signs. Granted, this isn't exactly these aren't exactly the safest driving habits, but yeah, I'm still here, writing this. Why did I go off on that tangent? I'm cocky about driving, I'll admit. I feel pride about how good I am. I'm not invincible, but then again I'm probably not going to die by breaking one or two rules every now and then. Can you now see the attitude we newly-licensed teens carry? The rules of the road are there for a reason; so that people won't get into accidents. It is ignorance and pride that cause most accidents in teenagers, not inexperience...
(and my thesis in that whole shpiel just changed, but oh well)

[The_Q]

Time for a moment with "How Science Fails"!

Once upon a time, there was an economist. He said to himself one day "I like football. I think I'll become a football expert." And over the years he gained in expertise about football strategy.

One day the NFL came to him. They said "there are too many punts in a game. Punts are boring. We'll pay you in a consulting gig to help us fix this problem." Because he likes money, the economist said "Sure thing."

Many hours later (he was paid by the hour) he deduced that lots of teams punted on the 4th down. Nobody punted on the third, though. He sent this data and a suggestion to the NFL. Soon afterward, the NFL restricted the number of downs from 4 to 3. From then on, all the teams kicked on the fourth down.

How does this little parable apply? Ages. Of course more 16 year olds get in wrecks now. That's the age limit. If you raise it to 18, it will be 18 year olds that get in wrecks. But they get more time to train! That doesn't mean they will. In fact, having more time to train gives them less of an incentive to train at all. Why? Because people like free time instead of working time.

Q

[Jpec07]

Canada I think it is has a good system for that. In Canada, you have different levels of licenses based on how long you've been driving...

[torres1287]

I loved being able to get my permit at 15. The whole 50 hours driving time and 10 at night thing with the parents in the car with you...ah, I hated those days so much. My dad would ALWAYS scream at me at every single mistake I made (I didn't downshift at the right time, I didn't check my rearview mirror every 3 seconds, I didn't stop right at the white line beside of the stop sign, and so on and so forth). I have been nervous with any guy in the vehicle with me every since. I can drive any of the girls around, but when it comes to guys...I get really tense really quick. Now that I've ranted of my permit days...let me finish with me statements. At 16 I got my restricted license. I am now 17 and I don't really care about the whole GDL system because I don't drive past the 16 year old's restrictions. (LOL) I do think that they should keep the laws here the same, but I guess I'm saying that because I'm responsible with what I have. My boyfriend would kick my butt right now for saying the age limit to drive should be raised. He's 14 going on 15 and he's just like I was when I was his age...I wanna drive NOW and keep driving FOREVER! I do enjoy driving quite a bit even now that I've had my license for over a year...without any wrecks, but I guess that's why I STILL ENJOY driving. Now, at age 18...you can get your full license. I'm sorry if I've fluxuated in this post...it's currently 1:20am where I am...and I'm not the most alert one at these times.

[cardmaster5001]

I believe the driving age should stay the same because if you pass a test, aren't you able to drive.

Now, I do think the requirements should be increased. My mother once told me that she did average on the actual driving part of the test, but passed the written part with flying colors.

Also, people who are basically flunking out of high school should not be able to get their drivers lisence as soon as they turn 16. They should maybe have to wait until they get their grades up or a couple of years after that.

[navyseal101]

[quote="jazzmosis"]Most 16 year olds will kiss the ass of anything that has money.

Most 16 year olds will beat the shit out of things that has money. Especially if they're black.

[CypherToorima]

woah woah woah. Racism anyone?

[jewpinthethird]

Most 16 year olds will beat the (#$% out of things that has money. Especially if they're black.

Racism will not be tolerated. Please keep your close-minded views to yourself.

[navyseal101]

ok...my bad, but what can I say, when you live in central maryland near Baltimore you develop these opinions about black teenagers.

[Snapps]

So? Excuses don't help.

Watch what you say.

[navyseal101]

lol....I love how people take life so seriously when we're all not going to get out of it alive anyway, chill out people, it's not like what I said was bad anyway.