ABCDEath.

**Bolth mannn** · 04-16-2009, 05:58 PM

does anybody know the BPM?

**Patashu** · 04-16-2009, 06:55 PM

Unless dore resynced it and resubmitted it:

#BPMS:0.000=121.400,
14.000=198.000,
26.000=200.000,
30.000=202.000,
46.000=199.500,
92.000=134.400,
98.000=70.240,
112.000=140.000,
127.000=178.000,
128.000=186.960,
129.000=178.000,
133.000=185.000,
135.938=198.001,
136.000=197.001;

**Bolth mannn** · 04-16-2009, 07:15 PM

/computer knowledge fail

can i just have a 3 digit number lol.

TC_llama499 · 04-16-2009, 07:17 PM

those are the BPM and where they change

**Patashu** · 04-16-2009, 07:22 PM

The opening is 120 bpm
The fast parts are 200 bpm and 180 speeding up to 200 bpm respectively
The slow part is 70 bpm

Card Man · 04-16-2009, 07:34 PM

Not to get off topic but how is BPM calculated? Is it possible to just listen to a song and count or somehow know what the BPM is? Sorry if I sound noob; I just don't really play SM so I don't know much about BPM.

alexdestructions · 04-16-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Card Man

Not to get off topic but how is BPM calculated? Is it possible to just listen to a song and count or somehow know what the BPM is? Sorry if I sound noob; I just don't really play SM so I don't know much about BPM.

Mostly, if you use DDReam Studio it will tell the exact BPM for the song and the sync.

**dore** · 04-16-2009, 08:14 PM

how I synced the song:

step the song
put on assist tick
change it where necessary

voila it's synced

**Patashu** · 04-16-2009, 11:30 PM

if you want an estimate for the bpm between two points of a song, get out a stopwatch and time out the duration of 16, 32, 64 or whatever beats. A power of 2 is good since most songs fall into a structure that follows powers of 2, but obviously if it's 3/4 you'll count out a different number.

Anyway, divide the duration by the number of beats you counted. This is the duration of one beat.
Divide 60 seconds by the duration of one beat and you have the number of beats that fits into 60 seconds, also known as the Beats Per Minute.

make sure to correct for delays; if you started the stopwatch a little behind the beat, end it about as far behind the beat when you stop and if there's still a bit of difference compensate for it. generally the more beats you count out the more spot on you'll be since the human error is more or less constant

**Oni-Paranoia** · 04-16-2009, 11:39 PM

Dores assist tick V.S. Patashus math

Technically Patashus way is more efficient, Dores way is just quicker

**dore** · 04-17-2009, 12:03 AM

I use Patashu's way for weird BPMs in electronic stuff.

But guess and check works 95% of the time so it's irrelevant.

Izzy · 04-17-2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Card Man

Not to get off topic but how is BPM calculated? Is it possible to just listen to a song and count or somehow know what the BPM is? Sorry if I sound noob; I just don't really play SM so I don't know much about BPM.

Not 100% sure but i think its based on the number of peaks in the waves per second.

**-KIDTHONG-** · 04-17-2009, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patashu

if you want an estimate for the bpm between two points of a song, get out a stopwatch and time out the duration of 16, 32, 64 or whatever beats. A power of 2 is good since most songs fall into a structure that follows powers of 2, but obviously if it's 3/4 you'll count out a different number.

Anyway, divide the duration by the number of beats you counted. This is the duration of one beat.
Divide 60 seconds by the duration of one beat and you have the number of beats that fits into 60 seconds, also known as the Beats Per Minute.

make sure to correct for delays; if you started the stopwatch a little behind the beat, end it about as far behind the beat when you stop and if there's still a bit of difference compensate for it. generally the more beats you count out the more spot on you'll be since the human error is more or less constant

So, can I count the beats in a 15 second time frame and times by 4? Would it be correct?

**Patashu** · 04-17-2009, 03:00 AM

you can do that but you can't count fractional beats as accurately as you can count an integer number of beats (which is what's going to happen if you count seconds instead of beats) so I wouldn't recommend it

Card Man · 04-17-2009, 08:48 AM

Interesting, very interesting. Thanks everyone.

04-16-2009, 05:58 PM	#1
Bolth mannn FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 2,228	ABCDEath. does anybody know the BPM? __________________

04-16-2009, 06:55 PM	#2
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: ABCDEath. Unless dore resynced it and resubmitted it: #BPMS:0.000=121.400, 14.000=198.000, 26.000=200.000, 30.000=202.000, 46.000=199.500, 92.000=134.400, 98.000=70.240, 112.000=140.000, 127.000=178.000, 128.000=186.960, 129.000=178.000, 133.000=185.000, 135.938=198.001, 136.000=197.001; __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

04-16-2009, 07:15 PM	#3
Bolth mannn FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 2,228	Re: ABCDEath. /computer knowledge fail can i just have a 3 digit number lol. __________________

04-16-2009, 07:17 PM	#4
TC_llama499 Resident Rock Climber Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Age: 34 Posts: 1,573	Re: ABCDEath. those are the BPM and where they change __________________

04-16-2009, 07:22 PM	#5
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: ABCDEath. The opening is 120 bpm The fast parts are 200 bpm and 180 speeding up to 200 bpm respectively The slow part is 70 bpm __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

04-16-2009, 07:34 PM	#6
Card Man FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 33 Posts: 645	Re: ABCDEath. Not to get off topic but how is BPM calculated? Is it possible to just listen to a song and count or somehow know what the BPM is? Sorry if I sound noob; I just don't really play SM so I don't know much about BPM. __________________

04-16-2009, 08:14 PM	#8
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: ABCDEath. how I synced the song: step the song put on assist tick change it where necessary voila it's synced __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

04-16-2009, 11:30 PM	#9
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: ABCDEath. if you want an estimate for the bpm between two points of a song, get out a stopwatch and time out the duration of 16, 32, 64 or whatever beats. A power of 2 is good since most songs fall into a structure that follows powers of 2, but obviously if it's 3/4 you'll count out a different number. Anyway, divide the duration by the number of beats you counted. This is the duration of one beat. Divide 60 seconds by the duration of one beat and you have the number of beats that fits into 60 seconds, also known as the Beats Per Minute. make sure to correct for delays; if you started the stopwatch a little behind the beat, end it about as far behind the beat when you stop and if there's still a bit of difference compensate for it. generally the more beats you count out the more spot on you'll be since the human error is more or less constant __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png Last edited by Patashu; 04-17-2009 at 12:13 AM..

04-16-2009, 11:39 PM	#10
Oni-Paranoia No fucks Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 2,440	Re: ABCDEath. Dores assist tick V.S. Patashus math Technically Patashus way is more efficient, Dores way is just quicker

04-17-2009, 12:03 AM	#11
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: ABCDEath. I use Patashu's way for weird BPMs in electronic stuff. But guess and check works 95% of the time so it's irrelevant. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

04-17-2009, 03:00 AM	#14
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: ABCDEath. you can do that but you can't count fractional beats as accurately as you can count an integer number of beats (which is what's going to happen if you count seconds instead of beats) so I wouldn't recommend it __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

04-17-2009, 08:48 AM	#15
Card Man FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 33 Posts: 645	Re: ABCDEath. Interesting, very interesting. Thanks everyone. __________________

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