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Old 03-5-2009, 12:34 AM   #21
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Default Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

I really don't know what you mean by a synthesized song. vsnares/flashbulb fast bursts? darude synths? electronic music in general??

I've got a fairly long music background though so it's easy for me to hear if things are in tempo or not (and when playing whether I'm sharp or flat). I also didn't care about being perfect down to the 192nd cuz that's not what makes sm fun imo. horribly off is no good, but do like shash says and use your time better.
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Old 03-5-2009, 04:29 AM   #22
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Default Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

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Precise technical accuracy is almost completely pointless at that speed. If you have to go lower than .3x just to figure out what the right note value is, then the section is either too fast for anyone to play without mashing, or too short for it to matter.

If you're going to spend serious time on a file, your time is much better spent testing it and improving the general fun factor, patterns, etc, than making sure that none of your arrows are a thousandth of a second off.
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I really don't know what you mean by a synthesized song. vsnares/flashbulb fast bursts? darude synths? electronic music in general??
A perfectly consistent tempo electronically generated.
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Old 03-5-2009, 04:31 AM   #23
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in the far reaches of the future, half man half machine stepmania elite will be playing your files and they will be doing ridiculous attacks on j7.

every sound must be within 5 milliseconds of its true location or they will quit out and rate your file negative infinity forever
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Old 03-5-2009, 05:02 PM   #24
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in the far reaches of the future, half man half machine stepmania elite will be playing your files and they will be doing ridiculous attacks on j7.

every sound must be within 5 milliseconds of its true location or they will quit out and rate your file negative infinity forever
Damn right!! Finally somebody's thinking ahead here =P.
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ITT:sync your sht close as possible and make it fun
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Old 03-7-2009, 05:28 AM   #26
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A perfectly consistent tempo electronically generated.

then why would you need to check for sync at .1 unless the bpm was or the offset was off
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Old 03-8-2009, 01:42 AM   #27
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then why would you need to check for sync at .1 unless the bpm was or the offset was off
Extremely fast bursts can still be tough to tell. I mean I'm pretty sure. I just wanted a way to ascertain their accuracy.

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ITT:sync your sht close as possible and make it fun
I'm a perfectionist though =P. Even if nobody will notice it, it'll bug me forever .
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Old 03-8-2009, 01:53 AM   #28
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Just go get DDReam Studio, it'll make all your syncing problems go away...

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Old 03-8-2009, 05:10 AM   #29
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Just go get DDReam Studio, it'll make all your syncing problems go away...

www.ddreamstudio.com
Is it tough to use? How does it work? Do you use it in addition to the standard SM editor?
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Old 03-8-2009, 05:24 AM   #30
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Its pretty much the sm editor+
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Old 03-8-2009, 09:03 AM   #31
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I actually prefer the SM editor for stepping.
I only use ddreamstudio to sync speedups and dynamic songs. But other than that it's pretty much useless to me.
If I want a tiny bpm change, i'll just sync it by ear, not worth my time to import to ddream and export to sm editor.
If I want a bpm stop(s), I'll just calculate it and put it in the .sm file and reload.

And I find putting the actual notes in the sm editor more solid than ddream. But I guess that's just personal taste.
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I want to use ddream but i have NO idea how and stuff
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Old 03-9-2009, 10:37 PM   #33
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Default Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

I've never used 0.1x music for syncing.

0.2x-0.3x are sometimes useful to do clear simple parts like piano solo.
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Default Re: Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

I guess for any really "crisp" sound like that produced by a drum hit it could be beneficial to go sub .3x. Other than that .3x is always sufficient for me.

*edit* And of course for the stuff mentioned in the OP.
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I actually prefer the SM editor for stepping.
I only use ddreamstudio to sync speedups and dynamic songs. But other than that it's pretty much useless to me.
If I want a tiny bpm change, i'll just sync it by ear, not worth my time to import to ddream and export to sm editor.
If I want a bpm stop(s), I'll just calculate it and put it in the .sm file and reload.

And I find putting the actual notes in the sm editor more solid than ddream. But I guess that's just personal taste.


i do the same exact thing lol
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