Angry Dad Strikes Back At Son

[devonin]

Graffiti is a perfectly legitimate form of artistic expression, it's a style of art rather than a seperate act.

Graffiti artists in my town have been hired by businesses to paint murals on side facings of their building etc, and they take a lot of skill and look fantastic.

Vandalism is vandalism, and the form it takes is irellevant, but just because a lot of vandalism is graffito doesn't make all graffiti vandalism.

[~kitty~]

Originally Posted by devonin

Graffiti is a perfectly legitimate form of artistic expression, it's a style of art rather than a seperate act.

Graffiti artists in my town have been hired by businesses to paint murals on side facings of their building etc, and they take a lot of skill and look fantastic.

Vandalism is vandalism, and the form it takes is irellevant, but just because a lot of vandalism is graffito doesn't make all graffiti vandalism.

Is it Seperate or Separate?
I don't know, I am very much like a stickler for things like spelling in formal situations...

EDIT: Oh, on topic... humiliation isn't the right thing to do for punishment, but it doesn't look very humiliating... it's just a sign showing something he did... I suppose. I've been punished physically plenty of times, but never humiliated...
I think humiliation (if possible by now, for me) is worse than the physical punishment I've received, lol.

[funmonkey54]

I love legal graffiti. I think it is colorful and when done professionally, can look really awesome! I know you won't listen to "it is art too blah blah blah" but in all honesty, I like it more than most art I see in museums. It takes a lot of skill to do it professionally, and if people want to do it, by all means they should be allowed to somewhere! And to say that they have "better ways of showing art" is not completely accurate. I can draw, but I can't paint. Who is to say that they will have equal abilities in an alternate art form.

Now, as for what this father did, I believe it was perfectly acceptable. If his son had told his father he enjoyed graffiti art and wished to take classes or go to a place where it was legal and practice, than more power to him! But he chose to graffiti irresponsibly. He deserved this punishment.

[jellygod]

good job on the fathers part

[LilyPichu]

@kitty

It's separate.

[Quigly]

Originally Posted by funmonkey54

I love legal graffiti. I think it is colorful and when done professionally, can look really awesome! I know you won't listen to "it is art too blah blah blah" but in all honesty, I like it more than most art I see in museums. It takes a lot of skill to do it professionally, and if people want to do it, by all means they should be allowed to somewhere! And to say that they have "better ways of showing art" is not completely accurate. I can draw, but I can't paint. Who is to say that they will have equal abilities in an alternate art form.

Now, as for what this father did, I believe it was perfectly acceptable. If his son had told his father he enjoyed graffiti art and wished to take classes or go to a place where it was legal and practice, than more power to him! But he chose to graffiti irresponsibly. He deserved this punishment.

Yeah it is definitely one of my favorite types of art. There are just so many possibilities with what you can make. One of the coolest things about graffiti though is that you don't have to do it by yourself, a lot of people make groups and they'll work on it together, each person adding their own style to one single piece.

[STD_Sappy]

I'm glad he did that. That's a father trying to lead his son to success, not jail, and not make him join some eff'd up gang where they do this. I appreciate this man, and I'm sure his son could be more understanding.

[fido123]

I agree with you Sappy 100% except I doubt this is going to have a lasting effect unless his dad keeps on doing this every single time he does something wrong and maybe something more if he does it again and again. Personally I believe in not beating but intimidation. My dad is ****ing scary and ever since i was a kid I knew that. If I did anything wrong on purpose such as pulling on the blinds as a kid he would rage...to this day, I'm 17 and scared ****less of doing anything wrong because I know my dad would rage. We still have a healthy relationship...it's just I don't do stupid things I guess. My friends call him Red when he's not around from that 70's show.

[Izzy]

He should just hit the kid instead.

[NumiGamer]

That's ****ing awesome! Hahahaha sucks to be him."If you smile I'll make sure you never smile again." lmfao. Personally I think graffiti is great as long as it doesn't say "Cock", "Penis" etc. because it gives otherwise completely dull, flavorless buildings something remotely interesting to look at.

By the way Zybanthia-I agree fully with Placebo FX. I think the punishment was taken seriously. I remember when I was younger my mom would yell at me and there was no way I could keep a straight face. I just inexplicably smiled and had trouble stopping. Even on the times where I was sorry/regretted what I did. It's just how some people are.

[Nyokou]

You guys should read The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne.

>_> I had to write a synthesis essay about whether public humiliation is effective or not in today's society. It was very interesting... kind of fun. It's EXTREMELY effective actually, but the punisher has several things to consider such as the effect it might have on the people associated with the wrongdoer. One of the articles we had to read for the essay mentioned a man who was publicly humiliated because he was involved in some illegal porn site or something. They released his name and birth date I think, and eventually his friends and family found out - he was basically "dead" to them and he ended up committing suicide just a while later because he lost the people he thought were close to him.

[igotrhythm]

It all depends on how the humiliation is carried out, I would imagine.

But I agree with Rubix. Such a punishment, if done too well, can cause more harm than good.

[sarahxjane]

Originally Posted by devonin

Graffiti is a perfectly legitimate form of artistic expression, it's a style of art rather than a separate act.

Graffiti artists in my town have been hired by businesses to paint murals on side facings of their building etc, and they take a lot of skill and look fantastic.

Vandalism is vandalism, and the form it takes is irrelevant, but just because a lot of vandalism is graffiti doesn't make all graffiti vandalism.

I agree.

I've seen some fantastic graffiti online and it's a shame that there aren't any amazing murals or what have you in my area.


If the kid willingly went out and spray painted something vulgar, is that not vandalism?
Personally, I'd love to have something really artistic pop up on the side of my building.
However if people are doing it for the sake of being asses and trying to ruin something on purpose, I don't agree with that.

[Syhto]

I wouldn't care if I had to wear that sign, and it wouldn't change me at all. That "punishment" blows.

[dcr]

Originally Posted by Izzy

He should just hit the kid instead.

lol. i agree

[MrRubix]

Originally Posted by Nyokou

You guys should read The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne.

>_> I had to write a synthesis essay about whether public humiliation is effective or not in today's society. It was very interesting... kind of fun. It's EXTREMELY effective actually, but the punisher has several things to consider such as the effect it might have on the people associated with the wrongdoer. One of the articles we had to read for the essay mentioned a man who was publicly humiliated because he was involved in some illegal porn site or something. They released his name and birth date I think, and eventually his friends and family found out - he was basically "dead" to them and he ended up committing suicide just a while later because he lost the people he thought were close to him.

This is what I refer to, really. Some forms of humiliation are just so permanent and devastating. Some people don't want to be wearing a scarlet letter for the rest of their lives. Humiliation is effective, sure, but it's like saying murder is an effective way to stop people from stealing vegetables from your garden or something. Just because it solves the problem doesn't make it an appropriate method of action.

[rzr]

What about tagging?

[moches]

I think he should have made the kid apologize to the whole school or something. Humiliation is short-term good, long-term bad.

As for the graffiti....what DID he graffiti? Depends on the place and the picture, I guess.