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Old 12-8-2008, 07:44 PM   #41
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Jammin' FC is who.
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Old 12-8-2008, 07:46 PM   #42
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lol.

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Old 12-8-2008, 08:09 PM   #43
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Pretty much a giveaway lol
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Old 12-8-2008, 08:15 PM   #44
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you never rule out the possibility of someone being bs, but there is a point where it's safe to say they're not. the fact is some people are full of shit so it's not wrong to question scores. otherwise we'll end up with another nima.

even though it does get ridiculous sometimes, it's just part of stepmania lyfe mang. also videos do help but they don't rule out someone being bs either. I could easily make a disregard AAAA vid with smac on and show ini in the exact same manner or better than most people's vids but that obviously wouldn't make it legit.

so really dossar, there's definitely reasons to believe you're bs, undoubtedly so. but on the other hand it's reasonable to say your scores are legit. honestly anyone who has common [stepmania] sense will have some doubt in your scores. In my opinion though, you play so much stepmania to the point of ridiculousness that it'd be sad if your scores were bs (and thats my reason to believe you)

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Old 12-8-2008, 08:24 PM   #45
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I have to agree with everything sam wrote. That's always been my exact opinion of dossar's scores. He improves at such a ridiculous rate that I have to just assume that he plays far more stepmania than anyone ever should.
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Old 12-8-2008, 08:29 PM   #46
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you never rule out the possibility of someone being bs, but there is a point where it's safe to say they're not. the fact is some people are full of shit so it's not wrong to question scores. otherwise we'll end up with another nima.

even though it does get ridiculous sometimes, it's just part of stepmania lyfe mang. also videos do help but they don't rule out someone being bs either. I could easily make a disregard AAAA vid with smac on and show ini in the exact same manner or better than most people's vids but that obviously wouldn't make it legit.

so really dossar, there's definitely reasons to believe you're bs, undoubtedly so. but on the other hand it's reasonable to say your scores are legit. honestly anyone who has common [stepmania] sense will have some doubt in your scores. In my opinion though, you play so much stepmania to the point of ridiculousness that it'd be sad if your scores were bs (and thats my reason to believe you)

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I agree with everything in that. Also, trying to cheat on stepmania online would show that you're taking the game way too seriously even though you're supposed to "hang out" in smo. SMO is also competition but moreso just for fun; if you wanted to get real scores, you would go on regular stepmania and not smo.

Also sam, it's a good thing you understood what I was saying because whenever I asking something like that the people on odi would usually overreact and start swearing at me like fuc saying Im calling bs even though thats way off my point

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Old 12-8-2008, 08:44 PM   #47
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Oh god. Wooke passed fury of the storm 1.1x rate after 6 weeks of playing. Does that mean he's bs?

Oh god. I AA'd 0x1311 after 4 weeks of playing and previous experiences of FFR and guitar hero. Does that mean I'm bs? No. I had a video back then too of the AA lol but now it's taken down (also note what rubix said in the thread on ODI)

In fact, I don't even know why I'm responding to that, but trying to prove someone bs in the future referring to their join date/starting date isn't always the best idea since it's safe to say Ive been playing over a year now, stop trying so hard to come down on me when I've already proven myself legit now
aa'd 0x1311 in 4 weeks only adds to my point, you yourself stated that your ffr experience was you being absolutely terrible and only god knows how good you were at guitar hero......................................
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Old 12-8-2008, 08:49 PM   #48
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guitar hero, ffr, and stepmania are 3 totally different games but w/e im staying outta dis pce
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Old 12-8-2008, 08:53 PM   #49
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this is just a repost of every single dossar debate whenever 1 out of his 20 scores looks odd
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Old 12-8-2008, 08:56 PM   #50
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Sam: I'm not sure if that comparison is quite fair. Many things pointed to Nima being obvious BS, and people were just being stupid about it. In this case, there's nothing that clearly indicates that Dossar is BS other than the fact that his improvement rate is very high and there are some weird inconsistencies. However, his explanation for it is still plausible, even when considering that his "tactics" are quite unorthodox.

Some things are a little fishy, but to be honest, the vids are legitimate enough, in my eyes.

The only thing, though, that I'm not quite up to date on is the FFR experience. What were the kinds of performances on FFR songs four weeks before the 0x AA?
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Old 12-8-2008, 08:57 PM   #51
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aa'd 0x1311 in 4 weeks only adds to my point, you yourself stated that your ffr experience was you being absolutely terrible and only god knows how good you were at guitar hero......................................
First off to Icecubez, guitar hero is a rhythm game, and stepmania and ffr are rhythm games too so they aren't too much different

And to Ed, yes my ffr experience was not nearly that good but you can take a shortcut in speeding up your improving rate by using your own strategy. Back in february/march, like I stated on ODI, I would play 0x1311 on a lowered rate and then do well enough to pass it 1.0x rate. At that time I used stepmania anti-cheat so I played some jack files in between cause it was boring but I played 0x1311 for quite some time and got a relatively low AA with smac (although sam you stated smac isn't too reliable but I used it to try and defend up my scores back then).

Edit: To MrRubix, I started out on easy beginner songs but I only played like two before I started to say "wow this is stupid, I want something more challenging" and I went on the tricky-challenging stepfiles, sometimes having trouble passing cause I didnt use speedmods back then and I sucked hard at reading the arrows lawl. Of course at that time I didn't have an account, but I got the main point of sm already when I figured out about sm: hit the corresponding arrows on the screen. rofl

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Old 12-8-2008, 09:03 PM   #52
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So you only played FFR files on 1x?
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Old 12-8-2008, 09:07 PM   #53
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I didn't even know about the options section so yea pretty much lol but I did get some good mashing combos, horrible scores overall. I had to play on the numpad with the good ol' windows 98 pos keyboard
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But I assume at that time you were already more or less a pro at reading arrows assuming they were of readable speed?
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Old 12-8-2008, 09:13 PM   #55
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guitar hero, ffr, and stepmania are 3 totally different games but w/e im staying outta dis pce
stepmania and dj max portable are different games but I got good at the latter really fast thx to the former
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it's like you guys are saying that if you can read the arrows you automatically do awesome on certain simfiles. which is retarded......

it should take longer than like 4 weeks to develop the finger dexterity and speed to play files like 0x1311
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Old 12-8-2008, 09:16 PM   #57
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But to AA such things? You don't have to be absurdly fast to get a low-AA. The trick is simply getting your fingers to respond to what you're reading in real-time. You don't need, in itself, high speed. I'll just say that when it comes to speed files, 0x is on the easy side.

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what if it was 4 weeks in the hyperbolic time chamber
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what if it was 4 weeks in the hyperbolic time chamber
then it would be like spending an eternity playing stepmania, and dossar will have aged far passed all of us just to be the best stepmania player ever created
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I've been playing for like a year and 10 months and can read 0x perfectly fine, yet still can't AA it

maybe i just suck idk

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