10-12-2008, 02:18 PM | #61 | |
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Re: Urban cyclists, and what to do about them.
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In terms of time efficiency vs. cost of transportation, bikes > cars > walking. If you wear a helmet and a fluorescent shirt, bikes are safe, unless there's some blind or drunk car driver out there, and in that case it's not the biker who should adapt. Is that illegal? Wtf. Well everyone knows your government is retarded so yeah. It isn't in civilized countries (read: Europe). I know from experience that biking on the sidewalk is a hundred times more dangerous, especially if parents with their kids in one of those carts (don't know the English word) take up all the space. |
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In addition, what is wrong with you? I don't appreciate the condescension, particularly since America's roadway infrastructure are actually more modern than a large selection of European roadways that were not designed with automobiles in mind. Quote:
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10-13-2008, 12:51 AM | #63 |
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Re: Urban cyclists, and what to do about them.
The distinction between a vehicle and a non-vehicle is whether or not the person is riding something. Give me macro statistics that prove your point that they cause congestion if you seek to win my approval here. Otherwise it seems wholly philosophical and I can't agree to it because I think I've made sufficiently clear a philosophy which has a higher priority weight (the fact that roads are a public sphere with rules and all who can adhere to them should be allowed.)
There is a difference between banning something which has the capacity to follow the rules and not enforcing the rule of law to those who don't follow it. Do you see my point here?
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10-13-2008, 02:55 AM | #64 |
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Re: Urban cyclists, and what to do about them.
I think the disconnect here is that in addition to the laws of the road, I feel vehicles should also follow common sense rules, like, you know, being able to maintain a safe speed.
By your definition, a skateboarder doing 5MPH has just as much right to use a commercial road as an automobile at a speed of 35 MPH, and I don't think that's right at all. |
10-13-2008, 03:25 AM | #65 | |
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Going really slow is grounds for being ticketed and is against the law for all vehicles where I'm at. Don't know if it differs there.
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10-15-2008, 03:27 AM | #67 |
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Re: Urban cyclists, and what to do about them.
Today was National Ride Your Bike To Work day for Australia. It was pretty awesome. They had a gathering in the city and supplied free breakfasts, engravings, helmet hair repairs (XD), massages, fluro straps and backlights.
They also had a jazz band playing and organised people to form a human bicycle. It was an enjoyable start to the day.
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