FINAL FANTASY XIII(13) PS3 and X360 Confirmed.

[zidart]

i'm not mad in any way for square-enix's decision because FFXIIIversus is still ps3 exclusive, and i'm getting the ps3 version of FFXIII anyway =P.

[MalReynolds]

I played DMC4 for both X-box and PS3, and I couldn't get the hang of it on X-box. Probably because the series was designed for a PS2 controller, but whatevs. I still had FUN playing it on the X-box, just as much as I had on the PS3. This arguement means nothing, as the FF series is hardly action oriented.

[ddranthony92]

If it has the same Battle mode as FFX I'll just go crazy.

[DJ Mamu]

Crazy happy or crazy angry?

It would be cool, but FFX is sinfully easy because of the battle system. I like it, I just ****ing suck at FFIV on the DS now. lol.


EDIT: "sinfully easy" not a pun.. >_>

[NeoCannonXcX]

well they also announced that they wont even start on the 360 version untill they have completed the ps3 version, and whether or not they're being released at the same time i can't say for sure.

[homersimp09]

Yes FF13 is exclusive for PS3 "IN JAPAN" Thats wat i hear so far only north or w/e with 360 publisher are multi-platform is Microsoft I think who bought FF13 and plus Square-Enix Didn't"SIGN ANY CONTRACT" to be exclusive blame it to MicroSoft =_= lucky X_X i think Versus too will be MultiPlatform \(> w <)/

[L0NEvvolf]

FFX2 = Best battle system in a video game.

[Shamo0]

Versus is NOT multi-platform. Versus is a true Playstation Exlcusive.

However, Versus AND Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be released until after development of FF13 is complete for both systems. The PS3 version isn't done yet, and they aren't starting the X360 one until the PS3 one is 100% complete. BUT IT GETS WORSE. The PS3 version isn't going to be released until the X360 one is ready to be released, thus they will be releasing the same day THEREFORE The wait for FF13 is going to be R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S. I honestly don't see this game coming out until 2010. Especially with Localization voice overs.

So that makes 2010 for for FF13 and 201? for Versus and Kingdom Hearts 3. THAT is why I'm so pissed at this announcement.

Not because of the exclusivity (even tho SE did say it was only for the PS3 in every trailer which is complete DICK to all the true fans that believed there deception) but because because of this stupid tied release date deal, EVERYONE has to wait longer for every game from Square Enix.

I'm not linking any sources because I don't have the time. But TRUST me. Everything I just said is 100% accurate and it ****ing blows for gamers everywhere.

And you know why this sucks EVEN MORE?!?!?!?!? New consoles, especially the Next-Next Gen Xbox will be releasing 2010 or 2011.

[tsugomaru]

Here's a tip: go play some other games while you wait. Final Fantasy isn't the only game out there and there's no reason why anyone would be dying in anticipation of its release. Hell, I've played half the franchise while waiting for other games to come out.

~Tsugomaru

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by L0NEvvolf

FFX2 = Best battle system in a video game.

Clearly someone who has never played an RPG other than Final Fantasy.

Originally Posted by Shamo0

Versus is NOT multi-platform. Versus is a true Playstation Exlcusive.

However, Versus AND Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be released until after development of FF13 is complete for both systems. The PS3 version isn't done yet, and they aren't starting the X360 one until the PS3 one is 100% complete. BUT IT GETS WORSE. The PS3 version isn't going to be released until the X360 one is ready to be released, thus they will be releasing the same day THEREFORE The wait for FF13 is going to be R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S. I honestly don't see this game coming out until 2010. Especially with Localization voice overs.

So that makes 2010 for for FF13 and 201? for Versus and Kingdom Hearts 3. THAT is why I'm so pissed at this announcement.

Not because of the exclusivity (even tho SE did say it was only for the PS3 in every trailer which is complete DICK to all the true fans that believed there deception) but because because of this stupid tied release date deal, EVERYONE has to wait longer for every game from Square Enix.

I'm not linking any sources because I don't have the time. But TRUST me. Everything I just said is 100% accurate and it ****ing blows for gamers everywhere.

And you know why this sucks EVEN MORE?!?!?!?!? New consoles, especially the Next-Next Gen Xbox will be releasing 2010 or 2011.

Cry me a river. There are dozens of better games out there than Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy, and handfuls of sequels for real franchises coming out. If you're so narrow-minded that you have convinced yourself there's nothing else worth your money other than Square-Enix games, then hell yes you're going to have to wait ages between games. That's one developer. Try branching out some.

Why the hell do you care that FF13 is coming to another console? Return the PS3. Sell it on eBay. Trade it in at gamestop. Go get a 360. Done. If you want to keep your PS3, then why do you care? The PS3 will run the game just as well as the 360. I really don't see what the problem is.

Also, new consoles won't be releasing in 2010 or 2011. Most experts speculate that there won't even be new consoles. Microsoft, maybe. Sony, no. Nintendo, definitely no. If you try to improve the tech, you're only going to make the new release cost even more than the PS3. We all found out that consumers aren't ready to pay that kind of price for a console.

[tsugomaru]

I sure hope there will be new consoles in the future. Maybe not 2-3 years from now, but definitely by 10-12 years from now.
I'm saying the experts are dirty liars.
~Tsugomaru

[Squeek]

The people who project the future of our industry say there will be new systems from these companies, but not in the typical context we're familiar with. As in, no box with controllers and discs.

They see the Wii as an industry shift that will lead to major change for the future.

And they say that if there's a "new" console coming soon it'll just be an update. Like a WiiHD, a Blu-Ray 360, etc.

[dood gone krazee]

Originally Posted by Squeek

The people who project the future of our industry say there will be new systems from these companies, but not in the typical context we're familiar with. As in, no box with controllers and discs.

They see the Wii as an industry shift that will lead to major change for the future.

And they say that if there's a "new" console coming soon it'll just be an update. Like a WiiHD, a Blu-Ray 360, etc.

I don't see what you're getting at with the "No box with controllers and discs, but they see the Wii as an industry shift etc. etc." If They see the Wii as an industry shift different from XBOX or PS3, it really doesn't make sense to me. The Wii is a white box that you insert discs into, and you have remote-shaped controllers. Although it is wireless and has a sensory system to pick up where you're pointing, it is still a controller-disc-box console.

[Squeek]

It's not just the Wii. It's technology in general.

Why use a disc medium when you can use a download system?
Why make a new expensive box with untested hardware every few years (at a loss)?

And regarding the controller, I mean the typical 27-button controller. Most people feel like controllers for video games are too complicated. So controllers are going the opposite way. Having fewer buttons is now better.

[tsugomaru]

How can the Wii not be an industry shift? The entire gaming industry is continuously relying on better and faster hardware and the Wii has gone completely against that. If they were able to be successful using less powerful and cheaper materials, then so can companies. I wouldn't doubt it if Microsoft or Sony decided to innovate on other aspects of a gaming console besides improving on hardware.

~Tsugomaru

[Shamo0]

Originally Posted by Squeek

]Cry me a river. There are dozens of better games out there than Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy, and handfuls of sequels for real franchises coming out. If you're so narrow-minded that you have convinced yourself there's nothing else worth your money other than Square-Enix games, then hell yes you're going to have to wait ages between games. That's one developer. Try branching out some.

Firstly that's you're opinion. Try not to project yours onto me as I didn't do it you. I simply said what was happening and how I felt. Secondly, I'm not narrow minded in the least, I know there are other games out there, and trust me I DO play them. You're right this is one developer with a huge lineup of games coming, and that's why it bothers me.

Originally Posted by Squeek

]Why the hell do you care that FF13 is coming to another console? Return the PS3. Sell it on eBay. Trade it in at gamestop. Go get a 360. Done. If you want to keep your PS3, then why do you care? The PS3 will run the game just as well as the 360. I really don't see what the problem is.

I only care that FF13 is coming to another console is because it further delays everyone's enjoyment of this game and other games down the pipe. So selling a PS3 and trading it in for a 360 solves nothing as there would be no point as either way you would have to wait. I have no problem with more people wanting to play the game and it's great that more people will get to play it. Those blocks of text that I quoted from you appear to be in the tone as a response to a fanboy. Wrong on so many levels.

Originally Posted by Squeek

]Also, new consoles won't be releasing in 2010 or 2011. Most experts speculate that there won't even be new consoles. Microsoft, maybe. Sony, no. Nintendo, definitely no. If you try to improve the tech, you're only going to make the new release cost even more than the PS3. We all found out that consumers aren't ready to pay that kind of price for a console.

Ok, Seriously what you're sources. LOLOLOL. John Davidson, a veteran game journalist and former staffer at Ziff Davis Media(1UP/EGM/PSM) is the one with the projected launch date for the new Wii reffered in the articles as WiiHD. This is recent BTW. As in 6 days ago. Read it.

http://www.whattheyplay.com/blog/200...i-due-by-2011/
http://e3.gamespot.com/show_blog_ent...6616131&page=1

Now for PS4

Goto Hiroshige has received PSX4 spec info from Japanese developer sources who received preliminary spec from SCEI for developer feedback(whom Goto refuses to name due to NDA).

* SCEI has sent rough PSX4 spec to 3rd party developers for feed back. Based on the description, PSX4 is a >Wii-tized PSX3, no more than 2X as powerful.
* SCEI wants to beat Xbox 3 to launch. 2011 is the deadline, or sooner.
* SCEI pulled all its engineers from IBM Texas, and there is no new CELL architecture being developed. PSX4 >will use same CELL architecture with improvements.
* SCEI will dump XDR and use standard JEDEC memory type(GDDR3/DDR3) for main memory.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2.../kaigai469.htm

Basically what it's saying is the PS4 is going down a Wii like path since the PS3 still has so much potential another massive upgrade isn't required. THUS a release date 2010/2011 is HIGHLY possible.

Keep in mind all of my Sources are incredibly recent. I didn't have time to post sources in my other post before but with the blatant post that clearly support the opposite with no evidence what-so-ever. I felt required to fill in the clueless. Well now you know, you can choose not to believe.

I created this thread a few minutes(literally) after Microsoft revealed it at E3 08' at there press conference. I think I know where to get my sources.

[robertsona]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

lmfao

so let's count the good ps3 exclusives so far

1. MGS4

this, although i know it's old
i remember i thought a while ago
okay lets count the good ps3 exclusives:
1. dmc4
2. this
3. mgs4
and then, dmc4 gets multi-platformed
and i'm like oh man if msg4 or ff13 get moved ps3 is screwed
so then this get moved hahahaha
that being said
this game looks pretty cool

sorry if this is offtopic but hahahaha i just saw this for the first time

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by Shamo0

Firstly that's you're opinion. Try not to project yours onto me as I didn't do it you. I simply said what was happening and how I felt. Secondly, I'm not narrow minded in the least, I know there are other games out there, and trust me I DO play them. You're right this is one developer with a huge lineup of games coming, and that's why it bothers me.

Mine and pretty much every game reviewer ever as Kingdom Hearts isn't even in the top 100 PS2 games on metacritic and the only Final Fantasy is X in #34.

Also, this is instance #1 where you use "you're" instead of "your". Numerous other mistakes make me unable to take you as an intelligent debater.

I only care that FF13 is coming to another console is because it further delays everyone's enjoyment of this game and other games down the pipe. So selling a PS3 and trading it in for a 360 solves nothing as there would be no point as either way you would have to wait. I have no problem with more people wanting to play the game and it's great that more people will get to play it. Those blocks of text that I quoted from you appear to be in the tone as a response to a fanboy. Wrong on so many levels.

No it doesn't. They've said they won't even work on the port until the PS3 version is done. Aren't you even keeping up with this? I hate this franchise and I know this.

Here's the plan. Square Enix makes FF13 and releases it in Japan on the PS3. The localization teams in Europe and North America begin working on translating the game. During this time, Square Enix works on the port. Since the translation is just a soft patch over the text, this same patch can be applied to the 360 version when it comes out.

Ok, Seriously what you're sources. LOLOLOL. John Davidson, a veteran game journalist and former staffer at Ziff Davis Media(1UP/EGM/PSM) is the one with the projected launch date for the new Wii reffered in the articles as WiiHD. This is recent BTW. As in 6 days ago. Read it.

http://www.whattheyplay.com/blog/200...i-due-by-2011/
http://e3.gamespot.com/show_blog_ent...6616131&page=1[/quote]

My sources are industry experts.

http://www.gametrailers.com/bonusround.php?ep=26&pt=1

Your sources are nobodies. Who the hell is "What They Play"? Seriously, that's what you're going with? It's a rumor and nothing more.

This is instance #2 where you use "you're" instead of "your".

Now for PS4

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2.../kaigai469.htm

Basically what it's saying is the PS4 is going down a Wii like path since the PS3 still has so much potential another massive upgrade isn't required. THUS a release date 2010/2011 is HIGHLY possible.

I see nothing that says "Official announcement from Sony--PlayStation 4 coming in 2011."

You just contradicted yourself, also. The PS3's potential hasn't even begun to be tapped. Why would they pop out another huge innovative console with insane tech in two years if their current console is tanking and has untapped potential?

Keep in mind all of my Sources are incredibly recent.

And rumors.

I created this thread a few minutes(literally) after Microsoft revealed it at E3 08' at there press conference. I think I know where to get my sources.

Apparently not, because the notation I mentioned earlier was from that same press conference.

[Shamo0]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Mine and pretty much every game reviewer ever as Kingdom Hearts isn't even in the top 100 PS2 games on metacritic and the only Final Fantasy is X in #34.

Why are you telling me what they ranked? Lol, Seriously where's the connection? I said "You're right this is one developer with a huge lineup of games coming" Huge as in RPGs that take a long time and a lot of money to develop. I never said they were Great, amazing, perfect games.

Originally Posted by Squeek

Also, this is instance #1 where you use "you're" instead of "your". Numerous other mistakes make me unable to take you as an intelligent debater.

I could care less about what some moderator on some forum thinks about my debating skills. Trust me that really doesn't grind my gears. The fact your(uh oh instance 3 LOL) going after minor grammatical errors is down right laughable. Is this english class? Mehbee i shud type lik dis yes? I can't believe you pointed out a grammatical error when the the entire post was completely legible. xD You might as well tell yourself and I, to indent on paragraphs. But don't that'd be going off topic. A moderator should know that.

Originally Posted by Squeek

No it doesn't. They've said they won't even work on the port until the PS3 version is done. Aren't you even keeping up with this? I hate this franchise and I know this.

Here's the plan. Square Enix makes FF13 and releases it in Japan on the PS3. The localization teams in Europe and North America begin working on translating the game. During this time, Square Enix works on the port. Since the translation is just a soft patch over the text, this same patch can be applied to the 360 version when it comes out.

I know they aren't working on the port until the PS3 version is done! That's the whole point haha. PS3 FF13 releases in Japan when it's complete. The game is localized for both regions and then work begins on the port of the X360 versions. FF13 was built from the ground up for the PS3 using the RSX, the machines have completely different architecture. The White Engine that Square Enix is using in FF13 was built specifically for use on the PS3. The port isn't going to be a quick process. So that means the US and Euro PS3 version of FF13 will be sitting there complete but NOT shipped and sold in retail until the X360 version is ready to do the same. All of this because Microsoft paid square enix to hold the PS3 version and make both platforms have the same street date. This situation is similar to how GTA4 was treated. See how the US and European PS3 users are still waiting? That's the wait I'm talking about.

Originally Posted by Squeek

My sources are industry experts.

http://www.gametrailers.com/bonusround.php?ep=26&pt=1

Your sources are nobodies. Who the hell is "What They Play"? Seriously, that's what you're going with? It's a rumor and nothing more.

LOL. Just because you don't know what "What They Play" is doesn't make it any less reliable. You probably don't even know what NeoGaf is which is really something to LOL about but that's besides the point. I wasn't referring to "What They Play" the site specifically, I was referring to who posted the Article, John Davison. You know who was on that "Bonus Round" that you linked to? Dan Hsu, Former Editor In Chief at EGM. You know who Dan Hsu worked under when he was at EGM? Oh yeah it was John Davison. Ever heard of Electronic Gaming Monthly or Playstation Magazine? Yeah he ran those publications and then he moved on to be the co-founder of What They Play. I think I know Industry Experts. Anyone can find information thru google on popular sites. It's all about knowing which people's articles to read. The only out of the loop nobody here is...

Originally Posted by Squeek

I see nothing that says "Official announcement from Sony--PlayStation 4 coming in 2011."

You just contradicted yourself, also. The PS3's potential hasn't even begun to be tapped. Why would they pop out another huge innovative console with insane tech in two years if their current console is tanking and has untapped potential?

What don't you understand. Did you even read what I typed xD

Basically what it's saying is the PS4 is going down a Wii like path since the PS3 still has so much potential another massive upgrade isn't required. THUS a release date 2010/2011 is HIGHLY possible.

Nowhere did I say "insane tech, or hugely innovative" I said a MASSIVE upgrade isn't required because of the specs resemble a Wii-like architecture. You know not being to complex from it's predecessor. It's like you didn't even read that.

[MarukuAntoni]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Mine and pretty much every game reviewer ever as Kingdom Hearts isn't even in the top 100 PS2 games on metacritic and the only Final Fantasy is X in #34.

Actually, it's Final Fantasy XII at #32, although it doesn't really matter. I think FF12 should've been way lower. All it had was good graphics. Plot was simple and the soundtrack sucked. Kingdom Hearts is at an OK spot. It was all right to me. Square Enix needs to step it up a bit with their games.