MrRubix's Riddle Thread - Page 6

**devonin** · 08-4-2008, 07:43 PM

I can see exactly how to want to do this, but I don't know the ways to expedite the process, and would have to brute force it the whole way through, and I'm already lost patience for it. *grin*

MrRubix_MK5 · 08-4-2008, 07:43 PM

Nobody has been correct yet.

To everyone: Either your logic is incorrect, or you're not being efficient enough.

Relambrien · 08-4-2008, 07:46 PM

Is it 6 hours?

In pure mathematical terms, if you switch between Emerald and Fractal riding the bike instantaneously for the entire duration of the trip, then everyone is going 5mph the entire trip, meaning they arrive in 6 hours.

Of course, if you're looking for something that can actually be done in real life, then that isn't possible. But let me bounce some ideas off. Since Tass will always be going as fast or faster than the other two regardless of who has the bike, and the only thing that matters is the time the slowest person gets there, isn't Tass irrelevant? He can never be the last person to arrive, therefore giving him the bike at any point makes it so that the other two only arrive later, lengthening the overall time.

Assuming that's correct, you can completely eliminate Tass from your solutions, as he'll be walking the entire time anyway.

Commandersa1 · 08-4-2008, 07:49 PM

Lol, I just got 7 hours 40 minutes.

@Relambrien: Please do not give away ways to do this probelm.

It makes it less fun when people can skip steps.

**devonin** · 08-4-2008, 07:50 PM

Quote:

In pure mathematical terms, if you switch between Emerald and Fractal riding the bike instantaneously for the entire duration of the trip, then everyone is going 5mph the entire trip, meaning they arrive in 6 hours.

If one is biking and one is walking, for even the most infintessimal instant, they aren't in the same spot, so you can't "switch" between them freely

heyitsmee · 08-4-2008, 07:52 PM

...if it was only two 3mph guys..so one would go half way at 5mph then walk the rest for a total of 8 hours...

with tass in it it makes my mind hurt

humphoboextreme · 08-4-2008, 07:53 PM

Tass should ride the bike, and have his little minions on the frontal pedals (what do you call those?) and they will get there in 2 hours? :P lol

EDIT: I didn't say anything about tass ferrying because I thought that wasn't allowed in this situation. Then again, it would be really easy if it wasn't. anyways...

PS: sorry if you don't like the color, I just wanted to see if the color thing can be an eye catcher, so you'd read the notice.

**devonin** · 08-4-2008, 07:54 PM

It seems to me that given how fast Tass goes on the bike, what you want to do is have fractal and emerald switch off walking/riding by having Tass ferry the bike back and forth, since once he gives someone the bike, he moves at the same pace they do while walking.

MrRubix_MK5 · 08-4-2008, 07:55 PM

Relambrien: Creative, but not every interval of infinity is of the same length. You're not taking into account infinitesimal time taken to catch up. You're still not going to do it efficiently.

Relambrien · 08-4-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRubix_MK5

Relambrien: Creative, but not every interval of infinity is of the same length. You're not taking into account infinitesimal time taken to catch up. You're still not going to do it efficiently.

Well, that's what I got out of Calc AB, so I thought I'd give it a try, haha.

Also, to clarify based on dev's point: can a person move backwards? I've seen a riddle similar to this one (not the "three people need to cross a river and only have one boat" riddle), and it included a "cannot go backward" clause, so I figured that this one, of the same vein, would be the same.

If it's not the same, and a person can go backward, then my previous point about tass being irrelevant is incorrect.

**emerald000** · 08-4-2008, 08:01 PM

Best answer for now is 7.714285714 h. But not the best for Rubix.

humphoboextreme · 08-4-2008, 08:01 PM

Well, if Tass uses the bike and the other 2 changes their jobs to "Magicians", they can just Teleport there, durr.

Commandersa1 · 08-4-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emerald000

Best answer for now is 7.714285714 h. But not the best for Rubix.

I have 7.66.

Commandersa1 · 08-4-2008, 08:08 PM

Nice signature, SoldierGuy.

It's just a little over the appropriate signature size. You might want to re-size it even though you are probably a troll.

**cry4eternity** · 08-4-2008, 08:13 PM

I get 7.6 hours, no matter how many times I have Tass ferry it.

Commandersa1 · 08-4-2008, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cry4eternity

I get 7.6 hours, no matter how many times I have Tass ferry it.

Same here.

heyitsmee · 08-4-2008, 08:27 PM

1.---------------|---------------
2.---------|---------------------
3.---------------|---------------

?

number 3 (tass) should go back and pick up number 2 who made 9miles..so something under 8..but not much..

**emerald000** · 08-4-2008, 08:27 PM

Personally, I get 7,8h now once I corrected my mistake.

EDIT: Scratch that. Made a mistake while correcting another. This is getting me pumped. I think I will stop for a while to cool down.

MahouMinachan · 08-4-2008, 09:01 PM

If I can get 7.6 hours without Tass ferrying, I think there's something wrong with that answer or my answer. I'll try to see what can Tass do to make it faster.

Edit: I feel like I'm gonna end up with irrational numbers by the end of it...

**Reach** · 08-4-2008, 10:23 PM

Initially I had thought 7.3 but I made an error. I can at least use the excuse of not using a calculator XD

My new answer is 7.6

08-4-2008, 07:43 PM	#101
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 41 Posts: 10,120	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread I can see exactly how to want to do this, but I don't know the ways to expedite the process, and would have to brute force it the whole way through, and I'm already lost patience for it. grin

08-4-2008, 07:43 PM	#102
MrRubix_MK5 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 120	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Nobody has been correct yet. To everyone: Either your logic is incorrect, or you're not being efficient enough.

08-4-2008, 07:46 PM	#103
Relambrien FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 34 Posts: 1,644	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Is it 6 hours? In pure mathematical terms, if you switch between Emerald and Fractal riding the bike instantaneously for the entire duration of the trip, then everyone is going 5mph the entire trip, meaning they arrive in 6 hours. Of course, if you're looking for something that can actually be done in real life, then that isn't possible. But let me bounce some ideas off. Since Tass will always be going as fast or faster than the other two regardless of who has the bike, and the only thing that matters is the time the slowest person gets there, isn't Tass irrelevant? He can never be the last person to arrive, therefore giving him the bike at any point makes it so that the other two only arrive later, lengthening the overall time. Assuming that's correct, you can completely eliminate Tass from your solutions, as he'll be walking the entire time anyway.

08-4-2008, 07:49 PM	#104
Commandersa1 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 2,344	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Lol, I just got 7 hours 40 minutes. @Relambrien: Please do not give away ways to do this probelm. It makes it less fun when people can skip steps. __________________

08-4-2008, 07:52 PM	#106
heyitsmee FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 2,042	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread ...if it was only two 3mph guys..so one would go half way at 5mph then walk the rest for a total of 8 hours... with tass in it it makes my mind hurt __________________

08-4-2008, 07:53 PM	#107
humphoboextreme FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 62	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Tass should ride the bike, and have his little minions on the frontal pedals (what do you call those?) and they will get there in 2 hours? :P lol EDIT: I didn't say anything about tass ferrying because I thought that wasn't allowed in this situation. Then again, it would be really easy if it wasn't. anyways... PS: sorry if you don't like the color, I just wanted to see if the color thing can be an eye catcher, so you'd read the notice. __________________ Pokemon Click here to feed me a Rare Candy! Get your own at Pokeplushies! Last edited by humphoboextreme; 08-4-2008 at 08:25 PM..

08-4-2008, 07:54 PM	#108
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 41 Posts: 10,120	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread It seems to me that given how fast Tass goes on the bike, what you want to do is have fractal and emerald switch off walking/riding by having Tass ferry the bike back and forth, since once he gives someone the bike, he moves at the same pace they do while walking.

08-4-2008, 07:55 PM	#109
MrRubix_MK5 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 120	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Relambrien: Creative, but not every interval of infinity is of the same length. You're not taking into account infinitesimal time taken to catch up. You're still not going to do it efficiently.

08-4-2008, 08:01 PM	#111
emerald000 the Mathemagician~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Quebec City Age: 35 Posts: 1,320	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Best answer for now is 7.714285714 h. But not the best for Rubix.

08-4-2008, 08:01 PM	#112
humphoboextreme FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 62	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Well, if Tass uses the bike and the other 2 changes their jobs to "Magicians", they can just Teleport there, durr. __________________ Pokemon Click here to feed me a Rare Candy! Get your own at Pokeplushies!

08-4-2008, 08:08 PM	#114
Commandersa1 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 2,344	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Nice signature, SoldierGuy. It's just a little over the appropriate signature size. You might want to re-size it even though you are probably a troll. __________________

08-4-2008, 08:13 PM	#115
cry4eternity ~ added for cuteness Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 33 Posts: 979	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread I get 7.6 hours, no matter how many times I have Tass ferry it. __________________ I'm retired

08-4-2008, 08:27 PM	#117
heyitsmee FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 2,042	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread 1.---------------\|--------------- 2.---------\|--------------------- 3.---------------\|--------------- ? number 3 (tass) should go back and pick up number 2 who made 9miles..so something under 8..but not much.. __________________

08-4-2008, 08:27 PM	#118
emerald000 the Mathemagician~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Quebec City Age: 35 Posts: 1,320	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Personally, I get 7,8h now once I corrected my mistake. EDIT: Scratch that. Made a mistake while correcting another. This is getting me pumped. I think I will stop for a while to cool down. Last edited by emerald000; 08-4-2008 at 08:35 PM..

08-4-2008, 09:01 PM	#119
MahouMinachan FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 205	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread If I can get 7.6 hours without Tass ferrying, I think there's something wrong with that answer or my answer. I'll try to see what can Tass do to make it faster. Edit: I feel like I'm gonna end up with irrational numbers by the end of it... __________________ I have a sig. Last edited by MahouMinachan; 08-4-2008 at 09:12 PM..

08-4-2008, 10:23 PM	#120
Reach FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Age: 38 Posts: 7,471	Re: MrRubix's Riddle Thread Initially I had thought 7.3 but I made an error. I can at least use the excuse of not using a calculator XD My new answer is 7.6 __________________ Last edited by Reach; 08-4-2008 at 11:11 PM..

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