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10-23-2004, 12:53 AM | #102 |
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what it is capable of doing other than just toruses and spheres. porgy and crew keep talking about how it lacks the ability to do alot and how it takes longer, doesn't look as good, etc... perhaps you could post what you feel are close to the limits of Bryce's capabilities...
or, if its easier for you... you could go back through your multitude of quotes and pick a few pieces that best illustrate your point. they do say that a picture says a thousand words.
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10-23-2004, 02:34 AM | #103 |
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I believe Toph already linked to a good one used in Prophetess but I don' t know how good you people are at using your eyes.
I don't think it's possible for me to show you something close to the limit of Bryce's capabilities. I can, however, show you stuff besides shiny toruses/spheres etc. No I didn't use spheres for Realization. The renders are more ambient in Love Is Eternity, but you can tell it's not shiny toruses. So..? |
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Oh and as for your collection. They have been so manipulated in photoshop its really kinda hard to see where Bryce was used in the first place. Hell, I'd be so bold as to say that in the current state of of the images they could be recreated easily using a variety of brushes and filters in photoshop and just skip the bryce part completely. Would probably save you time. PS. I think all of them except the first one blow balls. And even the first one isnt great I just like the color scheme. Even I could have found better Bryce artwork than that to show.
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10-23-2004, 08:42 AM | #105 |
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Mwerp, one thing.
Can you describe for me what these are? Because to ME, that's no different from this. ~Squeek |
10-23-2004, 08:52 AM | #106 |
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This is where objectivity comes in.
The reason Mwerp keeps trying to get someone to prove that all those professional artist are beter than RJ is because he knows it can't be done. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - there's no universal definition for what makes good art. Take a college-level music history course some time - you'd be amazed at what some time periods considered music because to you it makes your ears bleed. Art functions the same way - one could see a painting and deem it the best piece of work ever whereas another can look at that same painting 5 minutes later and determine it looks no better than if they had taken a blank canvas and shit all over it. So to you, Squeek, maybe they are the same. But to Mwerp (and others, I'm sure), they're vastly different. And it's not something I could explain simply because of the difference of standards.
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THIS WHOLE THREAD FROM THE BEGINNING HAS BEEN ABOUT ABSTRACT ART YOU FUCKING MORON YES I JUST CUSSED YOU OUT YOU PUSSO****** YOU DESERVE IT FOR HOW DENSE YOU ARE YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT EACH TIME I TELL IT TO YOU WHY? BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T WIN UNLESS IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT PICKING OUT LATER QUOTES OUT OF WHOLE SUBJECT MATTER CONTEXT DOES NOT HELP YOU AT ALL IN THIS SITUATION Quote:
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But heck, as Kilga said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you want to bullshit yourself and claim that your paintjob is great with the sole intention of doing it for argumental purposes, I'm not going to stop you. However, art is NOT in the eye of the beholder. Just because one coonsimon thinks that a particular art form is not art does not mean it is no longer art. Especially when said coonsimon has no idea what he's talking about. |
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10-23-2004, 12:50 PM | #108 |
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I wish you people would stop interrupting this with gay things like that.
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10-23-2004, 01:02 PM | #109 |
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i just really would like to know... what is a coonsimon? this thread was already locked once, if the quality of the language doesn't stay above the trailer park level, it'll be locked a second time.
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Everything else got slapped with "tl;dr". Well, I skimmed them a bit, but you know what I mean.
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Mwerp, I don't believe you are on any level to judge the validity of anybodies taste in art. Although I wouldn't judge myself or anybody else for that matter qualified to tell anybody how to appreciate art I will give it that I attend an art school. My portfolio has gotten me accepted to the Art Center of Pasadena which has one of the countries most rigorous acceptance qualifications. It requires a portfolio well rounded in the classical art skills of free hand, painting, and sculpting as well as digital 2d and 3d techniques. But I will not call you or anybody else a moron for their taste in art, although i do think you are stubborn and oblivious which often go hand in hand with idiocy. You see, in a debate there is no "win or lose" per se, but more a matter of who can prove a point the best. But we can't even achieve that as you keep shifting the point of interest. The topic of the thread is "Just got Bryce" not "look at my abstract art" and the post I made that sparked all this was suggesting to the topic starter that if he enjoys 3d he might consider looking into more advanced 3d packages. You seem to get uppity about this since Bryce is all you use and abstract art is all you create. And then you get out of hand and start calling other people names because we are trying to debate a subject that spans more than just abstract art. Yes, Bryce can create material used in abstract art pieces. What we are arguing is that its capabilities end there. That maybe the topic starter might want to branch out to more universal applications of 3d in art. So how about you figure out WHAT exactly is the point you are trying to prove and stay on point. mmmkay?
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The content of the topic was abstract art. Name of topic does not necessarily imply its content. Regardless, this discussion was sprung from a previous topic of which's content involved abstract art. There, you told him Bryce is a horrible program and he shouldn't use it for that. This whole discussion we've been having is based off of that. Quote:
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10-23-2004, 08:10 PM | #115 |
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if you two wish to keep this going, do it over AIM.
neither of you are saying anything new. and, you are both arguing different things. ps - i'm not alone in the decision to lock this, so don't yell only at me if you are upset by it.
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10-23-2004, 08:17 PM | #116 |
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I agree with this lock.
BING. Because everyone knows Abstract Art isnt really Art. ZING. |
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