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Old 10-18-2004, 02:27 PM   #161
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the rules in the Netherlands works well, IMO. you can't smoke in public. there are stores/cafe's where you can buy in moderation and sit and smoke legally. that is a good policy.
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Old 10-18-2004, 03:49 PM   #162
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ince marijuana itself can't harm you
um, any smoking hurts you. As a matter of fact its harsher on the lungs than cigarettes.
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Old 10-18-2004, 06:12 PM   #163
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Old 10-18-2004, 07:28 PM   #164
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I could waste my time going and googling a study. or i could use simple knowledge of biology and chemistry. When you inhale marijuana you inhale smoke. Smoke contains carbon, more so than most cigarettes since most people smoke it unfiltered thru a pipe or a joint. Carbon in the lungs is what causes lung cancer. Its especially harmful when (as many pot smokers do) you hold it in your lungs as long as possible.

http://www.well.com/user/woa/fspot.htm

consult the paragraph about "Does Marijuana cause cancer".
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:44 PM   #165
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Ok, im gonna put this plain and simple. I beleive if you where smoking by me then I have the right to put the cigarrete out. Reason being, your hurting my lungs. Eather that, or a nice drop kick. Oh, btw I know I have bad grammar..
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:57 PM   #166
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Oh btw, you just bumped a topic over a month old. GG
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:39 AM   #167
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Oh btw, you just bumped a topic over a month old. GG
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Ok, im gonna put this plain and simple. I beleive if you where smoking by me then I have the right to put the cigarrete out. Reason being, your hurting my lungs. Eather that, or a nice drop kick. Oh, btw I know I have bad grammar..
Passive smoking isnt going to hurt your lungs unless you are constantly breathing it.
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Old 11-28-2004, 10:52 PM   #168
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If a person is smoking in your general vicinity, is it generally considered impolite to ask them to butt out?

Or.

Do you have the right?

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Old 12-8-2004, 08:06 AM   #169
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Smoking is stupid and bad.




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...But for some people who cannot grasp the idea of delayed consequences don't care. It's like you getting onto FFR instead of doing your homework. You don't care at the moment but later you'll say "oh crap, that was a waste of time".... and you'll keep on doing it. Smoking is just worse.

Smoking is not a prime source of income for the government. Taxes are. What they should do is tax cigarettes a whole lot. Good for government, people smoke less. A new drug needs to come out and replace cigarettes. One less addictive and smells better and whatever. Just to get rid of smoking. Create a bigger, but less costly problem to force the other one out.

"And if someone chooses to smoke... why is it any of your concern."

Oh right. Just let them die.

...sigh.

If some kid walks into the street... why is it any of your concern?

Same way with smokers, they probably started when they were young and stupid and made the wrong choice. The burden is upon those more able, and in control to help. At least in my opinion.
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Old 12-8-2004, 02:40 PM   #170
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I've only read the first two pages of this, so if this was said somewhere forgive me for that.
Personally, I think every word anti said in his first post was correct.
I mean, why should they cut a hole in your black sick lung so that you could breathe again? Couldnt they let you stay in that hole you dug for yourself? Honestly, "Look at me. I'm a dumb smoker. I'm gonna smoke for 5 years and then have them cure me so i can smoke again. I'm not gonna get cancer, thats rare here"
To be honest, a person like you needs to be rejected from the hospital to die in a hole. You wanna smoke, fine, get cancer, and die. Thats what you get from killing that many people with your dumb ass second hand smoke.
Also, "I'm too addicted to quit, don't blame me"
That is complete bull****.
You think you're weak of mind? If you think that willpower isn't enough to help you quit? That is weak.
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Old 12-8-2004, 02:55 PM   #171
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I agree people shouldn't smoke, but the only thing I disagree with is refusing operations on people that got something from smoking. That's harsh. And plus, people would get angry; say it was you're brother that needed an operation, but he was refused because the illness was caused from smoking and he was left to die. That would'nt go too well with you or you're family, would it?
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Old 12-8-2004, 03:11 PM   #172
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I agree people shouldn't smoke, but the only thing I disagree with is refusing operations on people that got something from smoking. That's harsh. And plus, people would get angry; say it was you're brother that needed an operation, but he was refused because the illness was caused from smoking and he was left to die. That would'nt go too well with you or you're family, would it?
It was your brothers choice to smoke, dig a hole for himself, and die in it, and probably take others down with him.
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Old 12-8-2004, 03:21 PM   #173
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That doesn't mean you wouldn't care about him.
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Old 12-8-2004, 03:32 PM   #174
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Should I care about someone who tried to kill me by smoking near me? I mean, if they actually tried not to hurt anyone while smoking, and just couldnt stop no matter how hard they try, then yes, I wouldn't reject their treatment.
But if they go smoke, have the doctors cut a hole in their neck and they smoke again, that's just plain stupid.
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Old 12-8-2004, 03:36 PM   #175
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FYI smoking is extremely addictive and very difficult to quit. Just because someone can't stop smoking doesn't make them a bad person.
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Old 12-8-2004, 03:48 PM   #176
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If someone can't stop smoking, that doesnt make thjem a bad person, it just means that they don't have enough willpower, however, for those kinds of people, they invented nicoderm and other nicotine products.
I know smoking is addictive. I know it's hard to quit.
It's not Impossible.
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Old 12-8-2004, 06:20 PM   #177
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HOLY MOTHER OF GOD IT'S JAM!
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Old 12-8-2004, 09:12 PM   #178
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I mean, why should they cut a hole in your black sick lung so that you could breathe again? Couldnt they let you stay in that hole you dug for yourself? Honestly, "Look at me. I'm a dumb smoker. I'm gonna smoke for 5 years and then have them cure me so i can smoke again. I'm not gonna get cancer, thats rare here"
To be honest, a person like you needs to be rejected from the hospital to die in a hole. You wanna smoke, fine, get cancer, and die. Thats what you get from killing that many people with your dumb ass second hand smoke.
Also, "I'm too addicted to quit, don't blame me"
That is complete bull****.
You think you're weak of mind? If you think that willpower isn't enough to help you quit? That is weak.
Enigma, I agree with Jellidog. I'm not trying to criticize you or anything, but, well, imagine if you were in the smoker's position. It doesn't matter whether they're just gon smoke again after being cured. As long as they're still alive, I think it's worth it for them to get healed and at least have a chance to start over, you know? I agree that it's dumb for someone to smoke and dig themselves into a hole in the first place, but they deserve a second chance and should be able to get help in getting out of their hole if they can't do it on their own. People who claim they're too addicted to quit, well, they need an extra push. They're not gon get anywhere without it.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:37 AM   #179
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SMOKING IS BAD FOR YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!! lol I have freinds who smoke a boyfreind who smokes I smoke my whole family smokes so I can sit here and tell you that smoking is bad it burns your eyes and damages your lungs it can give you all kinds of deseases Emphyzema (trust me you don't want that my mom has it) and I know that alot of you are going to be like " she smokes so she has no room to tell us this " I'm just warning you that if you don't smoke don't ever start I sing in a choir and smoking has ruined my voice, I mean I can still sing but I can't hit notes that I used to be able to hit because of how badly damaged my lungs are so for all you who don't smoke..............DON'T EVER START IT'S BAD FOR YOU REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD !!!!!!!!!!!! - Tifanie 8)
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Old 12-16-2004, 04:33 PM   #180
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SMOKING IS BAD FOR YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!! lol I have freinds who smoke a boyfreind who smokes I smoke my whole family smokes so I can sit here and tell you that smoking is bad it burns your eyes and damages your lungs it can give you all kinds of deseases Emphyzema (trust me you don't want that my mom has it) and I know that alot of you are going to be like " she smokes so she has no room to tell us this " I'm just warning you that if you don't smoke don't ever start I sing in a choir and smoking has ruined my voice, I mean I can still sing but I can't hit notes that I used to be able to hit because of how badly damaged my lungs are so for all you who don't smoke..............DON'T EVER START IT'S BAD FOR YOU REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD !!!!!!!!!!!! - Tifanie 8)
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I agree with Jam, though. About the whole "Who cares if I smoke, leave me alone and let me die" thing. I think that's stupid and ignorant. Take a hint, you're going to die because of a friggin death stick, what a lame way to die. "Here lies (name), Died from Smoking" Oh nice, I'm sure you'd like that kind of recognition. Think of the things you could do with your life instead of smoking cigarettes. Smoking is just negative towards you, others, and your lifestyle. You're restricted from doing things because of smoking. It seriously is one of the most stupid things ever.
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