Dog's Super Smash Bros. Brawl Ladder

[Jor-Dan_the_greatest]

Originally Posted by dogdude84

dogdude84 (Cam): 2406-4853-5455
Items held: awesomeness

riiiiiiiiiiiiight...

[abbiemonGoesRaWr]

Originally Posted by dogdude84

dogdude84 (Cam): 2406-4853-5455
Items held: awesomeness

Originally Posted by Jor-Dan_the_greatest

riiiiiiiiiiiiight...

hehe. I was about to say. d: lol :]

And I noticed we all have mushrooms.
So that means if we win this Haiku thing, we get a second one? ^^
And can you only use a mushroom to cancel out the results of a match if you're one of the top 3?

Also.

Originally Posted by Gray Fox

Yep I'm pretty much on my free time so is this for the ladder or just for fun?

Well if everyone does have a mushroom, then I can use it to challenge you. :]
If dogdude just typed that to test out the way it looks, then I'm too far down the ladder to play you.

Then again... we all DO have mushrooms, since you're one of the top 3, you can just use it IF I win. T^T

[Gray Fox]

Yeah I already saw that whole mushroom thing and canceling the results with said mushroom. Haha funny and true, if you do win then I could use my shroom to cancel it out xD

[Fire Lilly]

Originally Posted by abbiemonGoesRaWr

Oh hey. I'll play you for fun. Not a ladder match :]
Female fighter vs female fighter. :]
Not right now though. My mom is watching TV; but it looks like she's about to fall asleep. x]

Send me a PM and we'll get a match settled.

Note: Not very good. (Still taking lessons. ) My friend, on the other hand, is VERY good... One of the best, actually. He's the reason I'm practicing. (And hopefully I can convince him to join this ladder.)

- Fire Lilly
P.S. How do you work this forum? It's so confusing! /Mind boggling confusion (Someone can send me a PM about that as well. )

[abbiemonGoesRaWr]

Originally Posted by Gray Fox

Yeah I already saw that whole mushroom thing and canceling the results with said mushroom. Haha funny and true, if you do win then I could use my shroom to cancel it out xD

hehe. Ugh... things are going to get ugly with these items; but a lot more interesting!

Hey dogdude; Jordan and I were talking about items on IM.
He has A LOT of great ideas which he said he would send you. :]
I on the other hand could only think of one. ^^; And it's kind of... blah. But...
Assist trophy: allows you to team battle with a CPU (lvl 3[?]) against the person you're playing.
So it'll be 2 v 1.

[Jor-Dan_the_greatest]

Originally Posted by abbiemonGoesRaWr

Assist trophy: allows you to team battle with a CPU (lvl 3[?]) against the person you're playing. So it'll be 2 v 1.

i like this idea!!! woot!

[dogdude84]

Originally Posted by abbiemonGoesRaWr

So that means if we win this Haiku thing, we get a second one? ^^

Yes.

Originally Posted by abbiemonGoesRaWr

And can you only use a mushroom to cancel out the results of a match if you're one of the top 3?

No. You can use either one of the mushroom's effects. It's just that Top 3 it makes no sense to use it to challenge up, and if you're rock bottom it makes no sense to use it to block a loss.

Originally Posted by Fire Lilly

P.S. How do you work this forum?

Check out some of the posts in the Newbie Forum, they should help you out with how to use it.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by abbiemonGoesRaWr

hehe. Ugh... things are going to get ugly with these items; but a lot more interesting!

Hey dogdude; Jordan and I were talking about items on IM.
He has A LOT of great ideas which he said he would send you. :]
I on the other hand could only think of one. ^^; And it's kind of... blah. But...
Assist trophy: allows you to team battle with a CPU (lvl 3[?]) against the person you're playing.
So it'll be 2 v 1.

That is a good idea. And yep, Jordan sent me some good ideas. You guys are gonna steal all the good ideas before I can think anything up. Kidding. By all means keep them coming!

[Temote]

Well, no match with Jor means I have the rest of the night to practice. =) Who wants to get on and help me improve my ivy?

Also, I just added virus, gar, lycan, lilly, stevo, and dogdude after doing a massive deletion of FFR people not from the ladder that I don't see anymore.

[Gray Fox]

The assist trophy idea sounds neat. =]

[Jor-Dan_the_greatest]

i see the hidden message in ur sig, gray fox!!

another haiku:

This whole "item" thing
Could bring about some upsets
Truly Surprising

[dogdude84]

Originally Posted by Jor-Dan_the_greatest

i see the hidden message in ur sig, gray fox!!

Hah, I hope that's not in reference to the recent ladder addition :P

[Jor-Dan_the_greatest]

Originally Posted by dogdude84

Hah, I hope that's not in reference to the recent ladder addition :P

rofl i dont think so... he seemed to like the mushroom and assist trophy ideas

[Gray Fox]

Oh wow somebody actually noticed that. Haha I added that a long time ago when I first got the game. In other words it doesn't apply to the recent ladder changes.

Still that was a very nice find, I actually forgot it was there xD

[Jor-Dan_the_greatest]

yeah i was like WTF i dont even remember what i was highlighting or why.... rofl

[garciak46]

temote im on right now wanna go a couple?

[Temote]

Garjack's Kevin, right? If so, then who's Jean?

Also, major lag when there's four of us. DX

[korny]

My G&W is not the only character i can win most of my games as. There are counterpicks for almost every character. Manti, there are some games i play against you and everythings fine and then there are others when it lags badly when it comes to button lag.

[Shamo0]

DI stands for directional influence.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Shamo0

A bucket isn't the only defence to pickas down b. Firstly DI is a main factor when getting knocked up above pikachu and not to mention due to brawls little stun time theres no reason why one couldn't DI out of the way or atleast airdodge along with the DI. Not to mention up smashing DI out of Pikas down smash is possible. Brawl this time is a huge defencive game now.

wut

what the **** are you talking about "DI".

And man, airdodging ain't ****. If I'm on my A-game, it's impossible to get through it with an airdodge. It's all about timing and placement. You probably wouldn't believe how many times I've nailed people trying to airdodge through it, and I wouldn't even say I've anywhere near mastered that. I think manti would attest to how tough it can be to get through Pikachu's down B using just an airdodge. If it's done right, the person will air dodge and the air dodge will "run out" while they're still in range of getting hit by the lightning.

All I was saying was that you don't have to rely on Pikachus B electric attacks in brawl to win matches. I've seen it happen. And against G&W, Lucas, Ness spamming any time of projectile should be avoided at all cost.

You know, Fox/Wolf reflect Pikachu's down B too.

So dude, it's not just that. It's either that Korny is the only competent reflector I've EVER played, or Game and Watch's down B is inherently easier to pull off (first guess would be that it's point of effectiveness is reached more quickly than other defensive down B attacks). I'm inclined to believe it's the former just because I've played even Korny (as well as more than a few others) as Lucas and I've NEVER felt like I needed to AVOID using down B. I've had the feeling that I need to be careful and more tactful, but never that I need to AVOID it. Only with Korny's Game and Watch.

I just think a the bucket took you by surprise since you probably haven't encountered it often.

No, because I got into the match knowing that his bucket would **** me up. THAT'S WHY I BARELY USED MY DOWN B AT ALL. It's not that I got destroyed by his bucket, it's that because of his bucket, I had to censor myself and not use attacks I wanted to. And Korny even said it: Game and Watch is a strong counter to Pikachu. Even if I was way more skilled at this game than Korny, I still might not be able to overcome that advantage. That's the point. It's like trying to win a footrace with your right foot cut off.

Even if you think you have a shot at hitting them while recoving I'd only use it when trying to gimp them when they would be punished for using there attack since it would effect there recovering.

I use down B extensively when my opponent is in the air. Apparently, no matter what is going on, Game and Watch can throw out his bucket, and because Pikachu's down B is slow and easy to see coming, it gets to the point where it's not even worth risking to try it. The best I could manage was mindgaming it, waiting for him to pull out the bucket, then do something else. But that's still ****ty because I am still having to not use one of my primary tactics just due to character matchup.

Multiple down b's? From pikachu? Really now? :/ I just hate to see one get so frustrated over another character.

I hate to see it too, but when character's aren't balanced in 1vs1, I'm gonna get upset over it, especially when I'm on the losing end of the balance issue.

EDIT: I kinda feel like playing a little this morning. PM me if you're interested.

[Jor-Dan_the_greatest]

can we please just stop talking about how some ppl are wrong and others are right? let's all agree we all veiw the situation differently and GET OVER IT!!! not talking to any one person in particular btw.